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Originally Posted by
MPBears68
Ok, Ric, I have a deal for you. You can draft a QB you like in round 4 this year (since we don't have a 3rd) if:
You get me a FA starting LT
You draft me a starting-quality interior OL and a LB in the first two rounds and...
You find me another half-decent receiving option (TE or slot guy) from FA, draft, practice squad, the CFL, outer space, Lovie's rectum, wherever.
Then you get your Kirk Cousins ver 2.0
I don't want to start next season with another swiss cheese, horse-manure OL or hearing bullshit about how Kellen Davis "can do all the things the good TEs can" or crap about Devin Hester magically becoming "a receiver". Deal?
100% on board with something like that. Between the first rounds of the draft and FA I think we can get a quick fix to the oline that has potential for long term, a TE, and a MLB and some developmental players for CB depth, etc.
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BTW, briggs, marshall, and jwebb are talking some smack on twitter. Sounds like me might be getting pumped up about the end of the season.
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Removing the guru will help. No more castoffs, retreads, and limited experiments. Getting say a Bushrod at LT and drafting a few OG's high is the other. If there's enough money I would even go as far as getting a FA center. The middle of the line opens no holes and the RB's look sad b/c of it. As for the rest I believe Louis will rehab successfully along w/Carimi.
The main thing is KEEP the OL a priority. Never forget this trainwreck and how it came to pass.
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics, even if you win your still messed up.
Restore the roar!
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Originally Posted by
blinddeafmute
I don't think we're as far apart as it seems because we definitely need a major overhaul on the oline. I completely agree with that. What I'm saying is that a few key players and a few journeymen will go a long way. I don't consider anyone on our line, other than garza, a journeman. Louis would be, but he possibly won't be playing another snap in the NFL. Tackles take years to develop. So we need to pick up at least one key T in free agency and possibly two decent guards... or draft a guard and pick up one in FA. Carimi had a bad year, but I don't know if he just needs time, or if he's a bust. Either way, we need an oline that ranks in the top half of the NFL.
I'd be ecstatic about that. I'll settle for just middle-of-the-road competent to start.
LT: Disaster, fixable this year in FA for big bucks. Don't get cheap, don't blow it like we did 2 years ago w/ Bushrod.
LG: Have NOTHING right now, maybe JBrown can be a backup that's it.
OC: Garza adequate but has a year or two left in the tank max.
RG: If Louis recovers well (please God), then we're ok, o/w have nothing but backup quality
RT: Carimi or Scott, probably Carimi since I do believe he will be much better after a full offseason w/o surgery
Fix this and we can talk about develomental QBs all you want.
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Originally Posted by
MPBears68
Ok, Ric, I have a deal for you. You can draft a QB you like in round 4 this year (since we don't have a 3rd) if:
You get me a FA starting LT
You draft me a starting-quality interior OL and a LB in the first two rounds and...
You find me another half-decent receiving option (TE or slot guy) from FA, draft, practice squad, the CFL, outer space, Lovie's rectum, wherever.
Then you get your Kirk Cousins ver 2.0
I don't want to start next season with another swiss cheese, horse-manure OL or hearing bullshit about how Kellen Davis "can do all the things the good TEs can" or crap about Devin Hester magically becoming "a receiver". Deal?
I don't think either of us have a choise in the matter, otherwise I'd be down w/that in a second. I think TE can easily be gotten in the latter rounds of the draft honestly; but I think they look at OL/TE via FA not draft. I think anything else can be gotten late rounds/UDFA.
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Originally Posted by
short faced bear
Removing the guru will help. No more castoffs, retreads, and limited experiments. Getting say a Bushrod at LT and drafting a few OG's high is the other. If there's enough money I would even go as far as getting a FA center. The middle of the line opens no holes and the RB's look sad b/c of it. As for the rest I believe Louis will rehab successfully along w/Carimi.
The main thing is KEEP the OL a priority. Never forget this trainwreck and how it came to pass.
I loved that part of your post. Never forget. If the season does tank (I'm still hoping for a miracle), then I'll have nightmares about this season for a long time to come
Brian Urlacher
Thanks For The Memories
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Originally Posted by
short faced bear
Removing the guru will help. No more castoffs, retreads, and limited experiments. Getting say a Bushrod at LT and drafting a few OG's high is the other. If there's enough money I would even go as far as getting a FA center. The middle of the line opens no holes and the RB's look sad b/c of it. As for the rest I believe Louis will rehab successfully along w/Carimi.
The main thing is KEEP the OL a priority. Never forget this trainwreck and how it came to pass.
Agree with you (fingers crossed) about Louis and Carimi. They're young and should heal up well. Maybe that's wishful thinking on my part but if it happens, it would help a lot.
The FA LT is vital. No excuse for whiffing here a la JA if the opportunity presents itself. This is a MUST for Emery, #1 FA priority by far.
I'd love to draft Barrett Jones in late round 1. He'd be our stud OC for the next decade and can play OG well too.
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Originally Posted by
MPBears68
I'd be ecstatic about that. I'll settle for just middle-of-the-road competent to start.
LT: Disaster, fixable this year in FA for big bucks. Don't get cheap, don't blow it like we did 2 years ago w/ Bushrod.
LG: Have NOTHING right now, maybe JBrown can be a backup that's it.
OC: Garza adequate but has a year or two left in the tank max.
RG: If Louis recovers well (please God), then we're ok, o/w have nothing but backup quality
RT: Carimi or Scott, probably Carimi since I do believe he will be much better after a full offseason w/o surgery
Fix this and we can talk about develomental QBs all you want.
Yep, LT is a must. Jwebb is nothing more than a swing backup. LG is also a must. Since we dumped williams we don't even have anything servicible here. I don't think spencer is worth much of anything. C and RG.... If Louis comes back, then Garza can cover center, if not, then we can either draft a RG or Center since Garza can be moved back to RG. RT... well, I'm hoping Carimi pans out... if not, Scott might be servicible.
I think this could get us to at least middle of the pack as far as Oline goes with possible development for the future with next years draft/FA. I don't know that we need to be more than middle of the pack right now. One step at a time.
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Originally Posted by
ZifanQ
Sure he is still young, but he is no Rogders, Brady, Manning.
In your shoes I wouldn't worry about a franchise QB until your organization can show that they know how to take care of a QB.
ANY QB in the league would be just as neurotic as Jay, maybe worse, if they played behind that leaking sieve you guys call an OL.
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You know Rodgers gets hit more then Cutler does right? If the Bears are a leaking Sieve, the GB OL is a turnstyle w/a few missing arms.