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    Quote Originally Posted by bearsinhouston View Post
    Sure. Or we can stay in our comfort zone. How's that been working for us?

    Seriously, to do it right is going to mean some changes. I don't want to half-ass this. It needs to be well thought out and if they replace Loive, they need to be sure it's an upgrade. At some point, you have to stop worrying about stuff you have no control over. We all have a preferred outcome, but one only people that count are Emery and up. I know I can't pick up the phone and influence any of them, so worrying about what they will do is counterproductive. They WILL do something. Whatever they do, the choice is to accept and support it, or grumble about it while nothing can be affected anyway.

    Whatever they do, I'll be behind it. Whether the team sees success will depend on what those moves are and who is executing them. All we can do is watch the movie.
    So , boiling it down , the first step is cleaning out this coaching staff, and implementing, The Change that most want to see . Second step is hiring an o-minded HC and his staff , then ship them off to the film room with Emery so they can watch tape on the players and get a feel for who stays and who goes . Then HC sends / emails to the players a difficult offseason workout program regimen they're expected to work on ( and pass ) so they're in good shape when mini camp starts . And thus begins a completely new era in CB football . What a fresh air and new excitement that will bring to us zombies - (since that's what the Lovie Era has turned us into ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    How much worse could it get? Ask Detroit.
    Don't have to it's obvious they hired the wrong man for HC .

    That doesn't mean we will .

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    Seems like we're going to misse the play off, but perhaps it's not all bad. We get lower draft picks, and I doubt we would get past the first round in playoff. 2th we might get a new coaching staff, I think it's time to let some fresh blood in. New GM, new coaching staff. The old saying goes defense wins superbowls and offense sells tickets, well I'm not so sure of that anymore. Our defense has played well in games we have lost because failoure from offense.

    It got proven that the Bears can only win football games when the defense scores points.
    That Jeffery should go have a talk with Marshall about PI. I think it was good play calling to give Jeffery the chances when he was one on one. I was quite disapointed with his offense PI but he is a rookie and missed half of the game, but still in one game that's to many. I hope Marshall can sort this out I doubt the coaching staff will solve the problem.
    I learned that Clay Matthews shouldn't dance..
    That we'd be so so so so horrible fucked without Marshall. Thank you Emery for getting him, imagine our offense without him.
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    not bad at all?

    We are the Bears and we need a winning mentality. Every loss is one loss too much. We need to win every game and if we do, there are things that always can be better. This is what we need and need to think about. Going as far as we can and every year without a SB Win is a lost year.

    Smith has proven that he hasn't this mentality and we know that we won't win anything with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    not bad at all?

    We are the Bears and we need a winning mentality. Every loss is one loss too much. We need to win every game and if we do, there are things that always can be better. This is what we need and need to think about. Going as far as we can and every year without a SB Win is a lost year.

    Smith has proven that he hasn't this mentality and we know that we won't win anything with him
    Ofcause we need winning mentality, if you don't wanna win you don't win.
    We are not going to win a SB with Lovie Smith so if we did get to the playoff he might have gotten a new contract and we'd be stuck with him for more years where we were not able to win a SB. So after all it might not be that bad. Gotta look at the bright side, sometimes a lose gives you more than a win.

    Oh also another thing that just got proven yesterday as well is how HORRIBLE the Bears are when they are in the redzone. I havn't been able to find any statistic on it, but I think our red zone production is very very low, at least that is how it feels. If you wanna make the playoff and win a SB you better be able to put 7 points on the board when you're in the redzone 7-8 times on 10 chances imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf The Ref View Post
    So , boiling it down , the first step is cleaning out this coaching staff, and implementing, The Change that most want to see . Second step is hiring an o-minded HC and his staff , then ship them off to the film room with Emery so they can watch tape on the players and get a feel for who stays and who goes . Then HC sends / emails to the players a difficult offseason workout program regimen they're expected to work on ( and pass ) so they're in good shape when mini camp starts . And thus begins a completely new era in CB football . What a fresh air and new excitement that will bring to us zombies - (since that's what the Lovie Era has turned us into ).

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    redzone is statistically direct in the middle of the NFL. Smith will be gone unless we win a PO game

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    Something I missed/forgot to mention. I know the Ol is bad, I know there aren't a ton of holes, but Forte has to find a way into the endzone on 2nd and 5. And if the OL is not getting push or opening wholes, then try and jump over or bounce out. And if that isn't good enough, why aren't we trying to qb sneak; or a quick jump ball?

    That redzone is mostly on the OL, the rest mostly goes to Forte and the playcalling.


    Also, maybe I'll have to turn my opinion on Hester, I think he's passable as a 4th WR option, but Aikman thinks that a passing game is only as good as the 3rd, possibly 4th wr b/c of how D's are playing. If that is the case, then no Hester is not good enough, and Bennett is probably only good as a 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Something I missed/forgot to mention. I know the Ol is bad, I know there aren't a ton of holes, but Forte has to find a way into the endzone on 2nd and 5. And if the OL is not getting push or opening wholes, then try and jump over or bounce out. And if that isn't good enough, why aren't we trying to qb sneak; or a quick jump ball?

    That redzone is mostly on the OL, the rest mostly goes to Forte and the playcalling.


    Also, maybe I'll have to turn my opinion on Hester, I think he's passable as a 4th WR option, but Aikman thinks that a passing game is only as good as the 3rd, possibly 4th wr b/c of how D's are playing. If that is the case, then no Hester is not good enough, and Bennett is probably only good as a 4th.
    I heard Aikman talking about that on the Score this morning. Here's what I think Tice has meant by the "Hester Package". He is a situational receiver, occasional 3rd, often 4th, ala Cribbs, etc. However, Tice had him starting. And when I say Tice, I mean Lovie as well. He's been getting a pass on his OC's ineptness for too long. Problem is we aren't executing our Offense well enough to set up the defense for any type of "package" plays, where we scheme into favorable match ups.

    I think having Alshon out much of this year has hurt the passing game more than we know. Even though he is a Rookie, he has shown he's a quick learner. Regarding his PIs, I lay that on Drake. Gotta coach new receivers up to proper technique for getting separation at this level. A good coach would see the kid has long arms, and if he gets caught with full extension on a defender, he's going to get flagged. That problem is, it should have been worked out on the practice field.

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    We (Bears fans) went into this season believing the addition of Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery, would result in a great year - and a great offense. Our expectations for this season were as high as I can remember in recent years. People were talking Super Bowl.

    Then reality hit us all.

    No offensive line = failed season.
    No decent offensive coordinator = failed season.

    Our season was over before it began. We failed to understand that skill players cannot overcome an offensive line as bad as ours (not just a bad oline, but a horrifically bad oline). It's like we expected "magic" to happen. But there is no magic in the NFL. You have to have an offensive line that is better than ours, in order to play with the big boys.

    Then on top of this, we have an OC who is also an epic fail. Just one more failed OC in a long line of failed OC's for the Bears. We never could pick coaches. Even Ditka, IMHO, was a great guy (I love the guy) but not much of a coach.

    Now we have people thinking the Bears will magically pick a great coach for next year. I hope there really is pixie dust and magic. But I'll believe it when I see it. I've seen and experienced SO much disappointment and heartache over the past half century or so, of being a Cubs and Bears fan. Yet we always say "just wait until NEXT year" and "the new coach will be better"..... but the years fly by, and we still have crap Cubs & Bears teams.

    Oh, well. Just wait until NEXT year...
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