Lovie, Cutler and the Green Bay Packers

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Originally Posted by The Benjamin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bears%E...2.E2.80.938.29

Beat the once between 2009 and today

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I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification!

why don't we add that Forte is bad since getting his contract? Clearly not a Top10 RB like we knew he was

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Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH

why don't we add that Forte is bad since getting his contract? Clearly not a Top10 RB like we knew he was

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He does seem to be running softer, but he also isn't be used in all aspects as he was last year.

well if the OC/OL are to blame for cutlers problems, why doesn't forte get that also? But I don't think anyone has said Forte's been great, actually there has been a lot of critism about how he's played this year via radio/news. And recently on this site people have discussed his issues.

Yet somehow Cutler is absolved....and how is it that Forte is supposed to run well when NO ONE on D is scared of the passing game, even w/Cutler/Marshal. Bears are still facing 8 men in the box more often then not. Teams are still shadowing Forte, even while bracketting Marshal.

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Originally Posted by Riczaj01

well if the OC/OL are to blame for cutlers problems, why doesn't forte get that also? But I don't think anyone has said Forte's been great, actually there has been a lot of critism about how he's played this year via radio/news. And recently on this site people have discussed his issues.

Yet somehow Cutler is absolved....and how is it that Forte is supposed to run well when NO ONE on D is scared of the passing game, even w/Cutler/Marshal. Bears are still facing 8 men in the box more often then not. Teams are still shadowing Forte, even while bracketting Marshal.

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The line has killed both Forte and Cutler, no question. But Forte has seemingly taken a step back and seems to go down easier. Cutler has defenders in his face a day which does add into his poor play. No denying that.

But both are due their fair share of criticism.

Benj, I really do think that Forte is hurt, it's not the getting taken down easier, it's just a slower in general move set he has; he never had great break away speed, but he just feels slower in how he moves.

Not an excuse, but I do hope next offseason he/Bush get fully healed and w/a new HC/OC are put in better positions to do what they do best along w/Cutler and Marshal.

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Originally Posted by The Benjamin

The line has killed both Forte and Cutler, no question. But Forte has seemingly taken a step back and seems to go down easier. Cutler has defenders in his face a day which does add into his poor play. No denying that.

But both are due their fair share of criticism.

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Wow, something I fully agree with you on, well almost......"But both are due their fair share of criticism, as well as the rest of the team and staff."


I seen your comment about BM being the only one not to blame, spot on, even with the drops he has had.

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Originally Posted by yttocs

Wow, something I fully agree with you on, well almost......"But both are due their fair share of criticism, as well as the rest of the team and staff."


I seen your comment about BM being the only one not to blame, spot on, even with the drops he has had.

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Everyone on the team deserves some blame, even Marshall. But if there is anyone who should get off, it is Marshall as he is our offense.