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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    A few more thoughts:

    Whoever the coach is for next year better only get say in things that are a proven strongsuit with them.
    If Lovie stays, i wouldn't be opposed to Tice staying, but only with a demotion of some sort. He's getting better at playcalling, but is overwhelmed with preparing the players, i do think he's done a better job with this crap of an o-line than most.
    If Lovie goes, i think he'll have success somewhere else (hopefully to NYJ), but I'm starting to think that if we brought in Andy Reid, that would be the best guarantee of no dropoff on either side of the ball. Also, I hope that if he is replaced, we keep marinelli, because he's slowly moving us away from the cover 2(which was fine with Urlacher in his prime) and more to fitting the system to the players, which is a major ingredient to being a good coaxh.
    Yeah, if Tice stays he needs help. Use the "Quality Control" title, or whatever moniker, to bring someone in as his assistant. I'm not even opposed to that person being Bates, but would rather they go through an interview process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    There really is no "hindsight is 20/20" in at least a few of us wondering how the hell we were picking at 18 and only one of the best 4 o-line prospects were off the board, and emery went de. I know we needed a de, but Reiff was there for the taking, and even if webb somehow beat him in tc, it's hard to imagine CW would've been moved back to LT after playing efficiently at LG since his move there. Hell, i think placing webb/reiff at the TE spot would've worked even better than having carimi there, and we maybe, just maybe, could've moved the ball more. Back to Webb, i don't want anyone to confuse what I said as him being good enough to be certified as our LT for the foreseable future, but as a 3rd tackle, he beats the hell outta Omiyale.
    I have no problem with Webb or Scott sticking as the 3rd (reserve) OT. But he's gotta be upgraded as the starting LT. He just can't hold his own consistently without being given tons of help and that limits what you can do in the passing game. The roster gets stronger by pushing from the "top down"...upgrading starters as needed and pushing former starters down the depth chart.

    Im not throwing Emery under the bus since it was his first draft, on short notice, and he didn't have his scouting team in place yet. But you're right, DeCastro or Cordy Glenn would have been better 1st round choices for OL and Chandler Jones would have been a better DE choice.

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    Uh...yeah decastro was still on the board and IMO that was a gift...but we took a olb pretending to be a de instead

    Just dosent make sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th and 26 View Post
    Once you become the worst for many years the only direction left is moving up the ranks. I can see the bears ol moving up as far as 29th.
    Yeah, we don't want to improve too much all at once. No reason to get uppity, after 27 yrs we still need to work on humility.

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    How I envision the conversation about the offensive line went last off season

    Lovie: Hey Mike, Emery wants to know what you need in order to improve the offensive line

    Tice: The line isn't great, but I think we have some real solid players there who will go a long way to keeping Jay on his feet this off season. We will be fine

    Lovie: So you don't think you need any help on the line?

    Tice: I have the fullest confidence in my guys.



    Lovie: I just spoke to Mike, he says the offensive line is fine as is

    Emery: Good to know, but what do you think?

    Lovie: All I can do is go off of what Mike tells me. If he says the line is fine, I have to take him at his word. What do you think?

    Emery: I just got here Lovie, I do not know the inner workings of the team and need the coaches help in determining what the biggest needs are

    Lovie: Well Mike says the line is fine, and that is all I have to go off of.

    Emery: I guess I will have to take his word as well then. From afar looking at last year, the line looked in bad shape. But with Mike working with them as closely as he is, I guess he knows more than I do. we will put off the line for a year.

    Lovie: If that is what you think is best

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Benjamin View Post
    How I envision the conversation about the offensive line went last off season

    Lovie: Hey Mike, Emery wants to know what you need in order to improve the offensive line

    Tice: The line isn't great, but I think we have some real solid players there who will go a long way to keeping Jay on his feet this off season. We will be fine

    Lovie: So you don't think you need any help on the line?

    Tice: I have the fullest confidence in my guys.



    Lovie: I just spoke to Mike, he says the offensive line is fine as is

    Emery: Good to know, but what do you think?

    Lovie: All I can do is go off of what Mike tells me. If he says the line is fine, I have to take him at his word. What do you think?

    Emery: I just got here Lovie, haven't you been watching the OL yourself or you just take whatever your coaches tell you?

    Lovie: Well Mike says the line is fine, and that is all I have to go off of. I usually sleep during the the practices. Well, the games too... They wake me up when I have to throw in that red thing. If I blow my nose in it, it goes farther when I throw it... Sorry, what was the question?

    Emery: You run the show here. You don't have an opinion on how the groups are doing? I guess I will have to take his word on this with your telling me you have faith in what he is telling you then. From afar looking at last year, the line looked in bad shape. But with Mike working with them as closely as he is, and you guys telling me the line is ok, Iguess you guys know more than I do. we will put off the line for a year.

    Lovie: Sorry, I dozed off.... What did you say?

    Or it could have gone like that...
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    Getting rid of martz would make the oline better lol lol lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by motownbear View Post
    Getting rid of martz would make the oline better lol lol lol
    You're right! That was a line Tice fed us during OTAs and Training Camp. The scheme itself will automatically make the line (pass pro specifically) better, by less 5-7 step drops, leaving in extra blockers, and play-action.

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