Thread: Thoughts on Jay Cutler and Mike Tice

I don't think it's excuses for Cutler per se, at least not from me. For me it's more wishful, hopeful thinking. It's been forever since I've seen a competent QB in a Bears uniform, and seeing Jays natural abilities, I'm hopeful that something, players, coaches, schematic changes will bring out the "elite" in him. I watch the guy sometimes and think "wow I don't know if any other QB can make that throw" other timer it's "wow I don't know if any other QB would do something so stupid". I guess I'm hoping for that "magic pill" that makes him great. Thought that was Martz, guess not, blame 7 step drops, crappy receivers, poor line. Then Tice seemed like the answer, thinking Jay would have more say in the plays, having BM too, surely this would be the breakout season! Nope, blame Tice and shitty line play. For me at least Jay doesn't get a complete pass because I've seen him do some really boneheaded things with the football, but I'm still waiting for the "pill". Guess I just got tired of watching the Bears play GB and the announcers rambling on about 27 starting QBs since Favre started his streak with GB, and now those bastards have Rodgers too? I just want my franchise QB, and for now Jay is all I got so I give him some rope, although its getting shorter every year.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

The problem is that IF we trot out a new coach/scheme/playbook for the offense (and maybe for the head coach too) then what can you do? It's another year lost.

Cutler, is never going to amount to much under these circumstances. Neither will the offense. I do believe that after a year or so in a new system, that we will see a decent offense......assuming of course, that Emery fixes the personnel woes. I'm OK with another restart with coaches/scheme/playbook - one more time - if they can finally bring in a solid offensive coach.

Ya gotta start somewhere. 2013 may be a good restart opportunity. By 2014 or 2015 we may see a powerful offense in Chicago, along with a Cutler we always envisioned.

But after all that, if he continues to look bad, it will be yet another OC which is making him look bad. Heaven forbid people actually put blame on Cutler. But no.... its three OCs who have failed. Soon to be a fourth

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

That's a good and valid point. But folks also factor in the crap oline, TE's who can't catch (can't block either) and WR's who can't run routes or catch footballs, clueless OC's (and a head coach that doesn't know squat about building an offense). And they figure there ARE some extenuating circumstances here.

How can we even evaluate Cutler under the situation he landed in here in Chicago? Sure blame him for some bonehead decisions (the worst one was deciding to come to Chicago - the butt hole of offenses). But he's really been screwed here.

all valid points. And that is all I am trying to accomplish. Put some of the blame where it belongs. On Cutler. He isn't the devil, and he does not deserve all the blame, but he has played poorly more often than we would like. You can not pin it all on the coaches or the line. He holds the ball too long and takes several sacks due to that, and he makes some seriously awful throws at times. It is not all on the WR like some like to say.

Again, I like Cutler. I am glad we have Cutler. It just makes me sick that once again we have a QB where half the fan base is making excuses for him. They did it with Rex, they did it with Orton and they are doing it again with Cutler.