Fact or Fiction: The season will be salvaged if the Bears make the playoffs

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Fact or Fiction: The season will be salvaged if the Bears make the playoffs.

Jeff Dickerson: Fiction: The Bears got off to a 7-1 start. The playoffs should have been a given, so the fact the Bears find themselves in this situation is an indictment on the entire franchise. The only way the season can be "salvaged" is for the Bears to win a Super Bowl. Shouldn't that always be the goal?

Michael C. Wright: Fiction. Certainly, the Bears will give off that impression. But really it depends on how far the Bears advance into the postseason. If this is a one-and-done situation, the Bears didn't salvage anything after starting the season 7-1. The Bears need to win a couple of games to call the season "salvaged."

Scott Powers: Fiction. Even though the Bears are flawed this season, the bar for this franchise still isn't set at simply the playoffs. Getting to the playoffs is an achievement for a team like the Indianapolis Colts with a rookie quarterback. It's not for the Bears. The Bears didn't go out and get a franchise quarterback and wide receiver to just make the playoffs. The goal remains to win the Super Bowl, and anything short of that is a failure.

Jon Greenberg: Fiction. The season will only be salvaged if the Bears win a playoff game, considering they'll be road underdogs. If the Bears can win at San Francisco, exorcising the demons of the past, you have to reconsider the way you judge this season. It's a little odd that Bears fans are so down on this team on the eve of a must-win game. In a normal season, this would be such an exciting scenario. Instead, fans and media are captivated by the behind-the-scenes intrigue at Halas Hall. Will Lovie Smith be back for Year 10? If the Bears get waxed in San Francisco, I think Smith is out. If they win, he's back..

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Fiction is the wrong section of the bookstore. This season belongs in the horror section.

Now that I think about it, the O-line was patched together with cast-off pieces just like Frankenstein's monster. The two halves of the season were like "The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde". Lovie Smith could be the inspiration for the title of "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow". "The Phantom Ship" could be the Hester Package.

Or maybe it belongs in the classic literature section - Lovie Dickens: "Great Expectations", and the sequel "A Tale of Two Halves".

Actually though, the season is probably best represented by an opera, 'cuz the fat lady is singing.

You are all wrong it is Fact, why you ask because no one in their right mind would write any kind of fiction that was as bad as this year has been for the Bears.

It would take at least one win in the playoffs to "Salvage" this season. Who do you want to face? Greenbay? Washington? San Fran?

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Originally Posted by KenMasters

It would take at least one win in the playoffs to "Salvage" this season. Who do you want to face? Greenbay? Washington? San Fran?

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See my thread. I can see the Bears making the NFCC. Beating the 49ers (cant face the pack til then) and then beating the Falcons.... quite possible.

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Scott Powers: Fiction. Even though the Bears are flawed this season, the bar for this franchise still isn't set at simply the playoffs. Getting to the playoffs is an achievement for a team like the Indianapolis Colts with a rookie quarterback. It's not for the Bears. The Bears didn't go out and get a franchise quarterback and wide receiver to just make the playoffs. The goal remains to win the Super Bowl, and anything short of that is a failure.

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Fucking spot on.

What Jimmors copied, read it say it out loud. The idea that this team w/that group of D monsters and a franchise qb/wr/rb, have to limp into the playoffs after a hot start; and has made the playoffs less then a handfull of times in those 9 years(assuming they make it this year) is embarassing.

Andy Reid is about to be fired from the Iggles and he had one of the best runs in the 2000's. They were tied for 3rd most wins w/Pitt, only NE and Indy had more wins making them the most winning NFC team of the decade. They were div champes 6 times that decade, making 4 consecutive NFCCG's made the sb once(lost). If he can be fired why the hell SHOULDN't Lovie who's done a small fraction of that type of winning in that same time frame.

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Originally Posted by Riczaj01

What Jimmors copied, read it say it out loud. The idea that this team w/that group of D monsters and a franchise qb/wr/rb, have to limp into the playoffs after a hot start; and has made the playoffs less then a handfull of times in those 9 years(assuming they make it this year) is embarassing.

Andy Reid is about to be fired from the Iggles and he had one of the best runs in the 2000's. They were tied for 3rd most wins w/Pitt, only NE and Indy had more wins making them the most winning NFC team of the decade. They were div champes 6 times that decade, making 4 consecutive NFCCG's made the sb once(lost). If he can be fired why the hell SHOULDN't Lovie who's done a small fraction of that type of winning in that same time frame.

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If Lovie is a failure, so is Andy Reid. Fact is there are 31 teams that fail every year. So are several other winning coaches who can not get to the end game and win it all. Paul Brown, Marty Schottenheimer, Marv Levy, Dan Reeves, Bud Grant, George Allen just to name a few. All failures. Complete and utter failures.

Every coach can be fired for not winning the Super Bowl. I am not saying Lovie should be fired, or should keep his job (I would not mind if he kept his job) but the Bears can do a hell of a lot worse, and only have a chance to get someone better.

Andy won a lot more then Lovie did, got his team to the playoffs a lot more then Lovie did, and got them a lot deaper then Lovie did. Andy Reid 10'x the coach Lovie is, and he is done in Philly. Lovie shouldn't have been given near the rope that Reid was; but was, and sadly might be given more.

This isn't about not winning a SB it's about not getting to the playoffs, having deep runs in the playoffs. If you cannot get there you have zero shot at the SB. And that's why Lovie is a failure b/c his teams do not make the playoffs consistantly.

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Originally Posted by Riczaj01

Andy won a lot more then Lovie did, got his team to the playoffs a lot more then Lovie did, and got them a lot deaper then Lovie did. Andy Reid 10'x the coach Lovie is, and he is done in Philly. Lovie shouldn't have been given near the rope that Reid was; but was, and sadly might be given more.

This isn't about not winning a SB it's about not getting to the playoffs, having deep runs in the playoffs. If you cannot get there you have zero shot at the SB. And that's why Lovie is a failure b/c his teams do not make the playoffs consistantly.

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You are the one who referred to the quote Jimmors had. Which said "The goal remains to win the Super Bowl, and anything short of that is a failure."


It does not matter how much you win if you can not seal the deal. Anything less than a Super Bowl win is a failure. Sure, he only made the playoffs three times in nine years. But his teams have always been competitive and usually waited until the last game of the year to be eliminated. How many truly meaningless games have the Bears played in his tenure? Not too many games have been meaningless. A lucky bounce one way or another.... a RB staying IN BOUNDS, ect. and the Bears make the playoffs a lot more times.

But, it is a results orientated business. And you are right, Lovie has failed to produce a Super Bowl. So, he joins other failed coaches who have not been able to get the job done. You either are a Super Bowl winning coach, or you are a failure. Win the division 20 times, get the first round bye each time... shit reach the super bowl each time... if you lose, you are a failure as a head coach. Great record, but overall a failure.