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Originally Posted by
50YearFrustration
Myself, I believe ownership will leave it to Emery, not so much for the trust in him, but to keep themselves blameless if it doesn't work.
But will fans actually believe it was Emery's choice to keep him if Lovie stays? I am not sure all fans will agree with your view.
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The Bears would never do that so quickly. I hope they keep lovie, even if we keep tice. I also don't think panic isn't in order about Cutler or the rest of the offense. With Bennett, Jeffrey and Forte hurt a lot this year, even with this o-line, they weren't as effective as last year. As dumb as it may sound, I think personnel is the overwhelming problem here. I'm really thinking you couldn't blame the staff for what they got out of the offense, as the running game just wasn't there this year, and every healthy receiver (even Marshall, who dropped too many potential game winners, and tipped a few too many passes into defenders) has been inconsistent, making Cutler's off year look worse. I think getting two receiving tight ends (seeing as that's how this system is set up to use; the blocking crap was supposed to be secondary) as well, and that's all that's really needed. Maybe more leeway to Culter, if his audibilizing or taken away, depending on which ones were more effective. Sucks we're outta the playoffs, but getting rid of this regime is a bit drastic.
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Originally Posted by
The Benjamin
But will fans actually believe it was Emery's choice to keep him if Lovie stays? I am not sure all fans will agree with your view.
Probably not, Ben, but they are are entitled to their opinions,....
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Originally Posted by
Henry Burris
The Bears would never do that so quickly. I hope they keep lovie, even if we keep tice. I also don't think panic isn't in order about Cutler or the rest of the offense. With Bennett, Jeffrey and Forte hurt a lot this year, even with this o-line, they weren't as effective as last year. As dumb as it may sound, I think personnel is the overwhelming problem here. I'm really thinking you couldn't blame the staff for what they got out of the offense, as the running game just wasn't there this year, and every healthy receiver (even Marshall, who dropped too many potential game winners, and tipped a few too many passes into defenders) has been inconsistent, making Cutler's off year look worse. I think getting two receiving tight ends (seeing as that's how this system is set up to use; the blocking crap was supposed to be secondary) as well, and that's all that's really needed. Maybe more leeway to Culter, if his audibilizing or taken away, depending on which ones were more effective. Sucks we're outta the playoffs, but getting rid of this regime is a bit drastic.
So, firing a head coach who's team missed the playoffs 5 out of the last 6 years is drastic?! If that's the standard, just hire him for life,...
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Don't know that he'll be fired tomorrow, but I cannot see how he can be kept. OB and Buffone said that he's gotten to hire/fire more assistants/coordinators then any other coach in NFL history. At some point it's on him and him alone.
I pointed in another thread that if Andy Reid can be on the chopping block for his lack of effectiveness after being one of the best coaches of the 2000's then Lovie(who isn't close to that catagory) should be just as likely.
The OL was his achille's, and his inability to get one is on him also, maybe not all of it but no GM or HC make the personel decisions in alone, so Lovie had a say in it, and the OL's failure are at least partially on him....so are all the failed DL's and DB's and WR's the Bears have picked up along the way.
All that said, rumors were that getting into the playoffs was not going to make him safe; if that is the case then I cannot see how not making the playoffs would automatically make him in danger. Emery supposedly is making this decision based on if he thinks Lovie can help get the team to the next level. I think when you look at all of the issues and that have hampered this team I cannot see how he thinks he can, but he's the one who's making the decision, we can only pray he's correct in his decision.
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Originally Posted by
Riczaj01
Don't know that he'll be fired tomorrow, but I cannot see how he can be kept. OB and Buffone said that he's gotten to hire/fire more assistants/coordinators then any other coach in NFL history. At some point it's on him and him alone.
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I say no they won't want to eat his contract. With cubs fan mentality at play all the time here they never have to make wholesale changes to appease the fan base. If that was the case emery would have been given the choice to ax lovie last offseason
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Originally Posted by
Riczaj01
Don't know that he'll be fired tomorrow, but I cannot see how he can be kept. OB and Buffone said that he's gotten to hire/fire more assistants/coordinators then any other coach in NFL history. At some point it's on him and him alone.
I pointed in another thread that if Andy Reid can be on the chopping block for his lack of effectiveness after being one of the best coaches of the 2000's then Lovie(who isn't close to that catagory) should be just as likely.
The OL was his achille's, and his inability to get one is on him also, maybe not all of it but no GM or HC make the personel decisions in alone, so Lovie had a say in it, and the OL's failure are at least partially on him....so are all the failed DL's and DB's and WR's the Bears have picked up along the way.
All that said, rumors were that getting into the playoffs was not going to make him safe; if that is the case then I cannot see how not making the playoffs would automatically make him in danger. Emery supposedly is making this decision based on if he thinks Lovie can help get the team to the next level. I think when you look at all of the issues and that have hampered this team I cannot see how he thinks he can, but he's the one who's making the decision, we can only pray he's correct in his decision.
Well said, Ric. I've said it before, the spotlight is now on Emery. He had a pass this year for 1) too early to evaluate his draft, and 2) he had to have Lovie as HC. After today it all changes. Lovie, no Lovie. Win or lose next year, and it is on Emery. His decision, either way, will be what is analyzed, discussed, and what he is judged upon.
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Originally Posted by
motownbear
I say no they won't want to eat his contract. With cubs fan mentality at play all the time here they never have to make wholesale changes to appease the fan base. If that was the case emery would have been given the choice to ax lovie last offseason
The Mc's are taking themselves out of the decision so that shouldn't come into the conversation since the HC contract is not part of the cap.
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The Bears have never been given real talent at any offensive position, and league worst backups and I would say that NO amount of quality could be had from these wasted draft picks. We're finally getting a good team across the board, but i think they will after a few major changes across the line. You could risk the new coah not being as good, or you could keep the guy you know will when with talent. Maybe if Andy Reid has interest, i'd go for that.