Thread: Bears miss the playoffs, WILL Lovie get fired?

Emery will look at the division, as well as our team. The division dynamics have changed since Lovie became our HC. The power structure has changed during these years. The Packers have more than a "good team" and have built a good franchise model. Oh, how I wish we could take the dysfunctional Chicago Bears franchise and model it more after the Green Bay franchise - the Packers are built to be successful over the long haul.

The Vikings, were a joke until Leslie Frazier took over. He has built a rock solid team in a very short time. It is a team that is good now, and getting better. Look for them to compete very well with the Packers in future seasons.

The Chicago Bears have really not changed. We are not a bad organization with Lovie as HC. He puts about the same product on the field every year. The problem is that while we stay about the same, the division has gotten significantly better. And it's going to stay better in the foreseeable future.

Emery knows this. He strikes me as a competent guy. He will see that we are at Lovie Smith's ceiling. Sure, players come and go. His sub coaches come and go. But the product on the field is pretty much as good as it's going to get under Lovie Smith. Again, it's not a bad team. But not going to challenge the Vikings or Packers.

We are what we are - a bottom feeder with Detroit in the NFC-N. A 3rd place team, again. Out of the playoffs, again. Talking about "next year" again. The NFC-N is going to continue to be a tough division for the foreseeable future. Lovie Smith-level teams will not compete well there.

Originally Posted by soulman

Thank God so now we can get on with what to do about this mess. Hopefully Phil Emery will step out this week and declare one way or the other what his intentions are as far as coaching goes.

Like I've been saying all along I really don't care one way of the other what he decides but I'm convinced that if he doesn't make some significant changes in the coaching staff and in player personnel next years outcome will be little different than this one. Personally I think it's time to move on.

Yeah I know Toub and Drake came out in his defense this week but then again Drake would be expected to. He owes his entire existence as an NFL assistant to Lovie. If Lovie's gone who's gonna hire a guy who hasn't developed even one top WR in his entire tenure with the Bears.

Toub claims Lovie is one of the best if not the best HC in the NFL, LOL. Sorry, not by a long shot Dave. He may the most popular coach buy he's far from the best. Maybe the most disturbing thing is hearing both say how he lets his coaches coach without interference. I don't see that as a positive any longer as far as the team goes. With Toub it may have worked but with Drake obviously it didn't nor did it with Tice.

I think the root of the problem with Lovie as HC is that he doesn't step in when he should. Ultimately he's responsible for all that goes on as far as his team is concerned so I don't know how you continue to allow him to coach and fail to achieve the expected results when one of the major reasons for that is that he refused to take charge of all matters that affect the outcome of a game.

This season was lost 3 weeks ago when we failed to beat the Vikings and put them out of the playoffs. This remind you guys of anything from the recent past? Like when we had the same opportunity to do that with the Packers and lost only to lose to them again in the NFCC Game. This is twice in three years that we've been in control of our own destiny in our own division and failed to deliver the knockout blow just like the way we fail to score TDs in the red zone and end up settling for FGs.

If there's anything that's emblematic of the Bears offensive mediocrity it's that and that carries over too the performance of the team in general. Despite Lovies W/L record his teams have become steeped in mediocrity and once again had the defense not gotten four turnovers today the Lions would have ended up winning this game. That was another pathetic offensive performance today.

I'm actually glad the Vikes got the nod. Any team that goes out and plays with their backs to the wall like they did today and outscores the Packers the wat they did deserves it. Every time the Bears get into a situation like that we end up stepping on our dicks and all I see from Lovie is that tight lipped sad sack face of his. It would be nice to actually see another face on that sideline for a change but if I was a betting man I'd say I'll be seeing it again next year.

One more reason I'm fed up with his handling of this team can be found below. Look at the inactives list and AND the practice squad roster. Between the active, inactive and PS roster we have four fucking QB apparently having signd Kellen Moore to the spot that opened when we let Sanz go. WFT!!!! Why in the blue hell do we need four QBs????? We let a guy whose shown some promise as a Wes Welker type WR go in favor of an undersized, left handed QB who couldn't even stick on an NFL roster through training camp!!!!!

Jeezus I don't believe the way this team is run. Thank God I'll have the Broncos to watch throughout the playoffs. It's gonna be fun to watch a team that actually has an offense for a change!

Come on Phil. We need to see a press conference before this week is out. Let us know whether or not we can expect to see some big changes or it's back to a few more seasons of missing the playoffs and any chance we'll ever have for a championship anytime soon.



Bears

No.	Pos	Player
12	QB	Josh McCown
25	RB	Armando Allen
47	S	Chris Conte
52	LB	Blake Costanzo
54	LB	Brian Urlacher
76	T	Cory Brandon
93	DT	Nate Collins

Lions

No.	Pos	Player
17	QB	Kellen Moore
30	RB	Kevin Smith
31	CB	Drayton Florence
39	S	Ricardo Silva
70	T	Jason Fox
78	T	Corey Hilliard
97	DE	Ronnell Lewis

My bad. This is the Lions inactive list not the Bears PS. I guess I was too distracted when I posted this. However the rest of what I had to say stands.

If Lovie is fired, I will always believe that one of the nails in his coffin was his failure to value the importance of the offensive line - year after year after year.

Cutler, B.Marsh, Alshon & Forte would have been epic this season behind a rock solid offensive line. The line should have been in place years ago. It wasn't just a 2012 failure. If Lovie takes the hit and gets fired, I'll always believe part of what got him in the end, was the oline failure.

I notice everyone saying its the offense's problems that got us here, that its now a passing league, etc. I say, The bears arent made out for this hybrid new fangled passing thing

Honestly, Whats killed the Defense every year for quite a long time? TOP! If we were to up our TOP the D could stay fresher for longer into the season!


I say trade off the WRs, and QB, pick up 3 RBs, and just go Option and Run every play

If you take the full :40 every play, thats 2.6 minutes off the clock, plus during the plays, lets call it 3 minutes... for a 3 and out! If we can run even more and rack up the yards, you could be looking at consistent 10+ minute TOPs per drive! (Ideally) so, Even if you 3 and outed EVERY drive (based on some research, probably around 20 drives per team per game [60-70 plays in 2010] even though, not all are 3 and outs, for purposes of this arguement lets say they are) you would have eaten up a majority of the clock, putting pressure on opposing offenses to do their thing quickly, and then let them get cold as your offense is out there.

I know this wont happen, but dang it feels good to write it, because it helps to erase mediocre QB play, Horrendous WR/TE play, and Atrocious Pass blocking by the OL!

Lessons learned:

If a HC has an excessive sway in GM/Personnel dealings that over time that could become a hinderance. Taking away his power would be like pulling teeth.

If the ownership has a finger in the soup for the HC it causes consternation for the GM.

When you put the GM in a precarious situation like that you cannot expect straight, concise moves in either personnel decisions or leadership. He becomes more of a political animal and will be lucky to break the averageness of JA.