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Any player that is bellyaching over this understandable, completely foreseen, and totally avoidable turn of events, can car pool out of town with Lovie...I think any player expecting or looking for sympathy over Lovie's firing from the Fans is in for a rude awakening...even more so from players like BU and Briggs who have recently made it perfectly clear what they think of us Fans...
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Reductio ad absurdum...it's how we roll...
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I just want to see Devin break Deion's combined return record. After that he can retire away.
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Go ahead and retire then and we'll happily use the money from your bloated salary for someone who WANTS to play for the Bears.
I understand he may be dissapointed but come on........
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He doesn't have a bloated contract JPosh, he's getting paid like most low end vet wr's.
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his return game sucks and we almost always lost yards when he run this year...
fine by me and maybe he knows he would get cut
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Originally Posted by
Riczaj01
Butka, I agree, but I think it was fair to give Hester at least 3-4 years to learn how to be a WR since he really wasn't one in college. I do think he showed that he could be a 4th-6th wr though. He's not great but in some situations he could be good(not everydown though). I also undstood why they did it, b/c teams were already punting OoB's or squibbing to not let him have the ball, so to allow him to use that explosive speed why not try and get him the ball as a WR?
I think it speaks more to how poor Drake is that it took this long to try and develop him though. And he's not worth keeping on the rost for his cost.
Drake has not been able to develop a receiver in his tenure here. I think that could be partially to blame for Hester's failure to transition to a receiver.
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Originally Posted by
Riczaj01
Butka, I agree, but I think it was fair to give Hester at least 3-4 years to learn how to be a WR since he really wasn't one in college. I do think he showed that he could be a 4th-6th wr though. He's not great but in some situations he could be good(not everydown though). I also undstood why they did it, b/c teams were already punting OoB's or squibbing to not let him have the ball, so to allow him to use that explosive speed why not try and get him the ball as a WR?
I think it speaks more to how poor Drake is that it took this long to try and develop him though. And he's not worth keeping on the rost for his cost.
I'm with you there. It was a worthy experiment, and Drake definitely deserves some blame. I guess I just had a problem with the last two seasons (and mostly this season), where it was clear that he's just lacking the natural ability to be a WR, yet, they kept talking him up and putting him out there. The opportunities could have been given to someone else. I also think they may have laid off pursuing other options in free agency and the draft in past years because they were sold on him.
I haven't been on the board much the last year, so it won't be on record here, but I've been saying that most of these short screens that Hester gets should be going to Earl Bennett. He's shown the ability to accelerate, make people miss, and fight for yards after the catch, where Hester hasn't really shown that outside of kick returns. I was somewhat proven correct yesterday, thanks in part to a terrible angle by Delmas (or whoever the Lions safety was). None the less, that probably would have been a 20 yard gain with a proper pursuit angle that I'm not so sure Hester would have been able to read properly. Those opportunities that Hester had could have been given to Earl Bennett (when Earl was healthy of course).
I could go on with Hester (not saying you disagree Ricza, I'm just on a tangent about Hester here). He's terrible at tracking deep balls. He'll catch a pass wide open and make an unnecessary spin move because he's unaware of his surroundings. It really does blow your mind with his innate ability to know what's going on with kick returns that he's unable to sense some of these things on a normal play (maybe it's the fact almost everything is in front of him with the kick return).
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Butka, I thought he was an average 4th-6th wr this year. The problem this year was that he was he was forced into being a 2nd or 3rd b/c of injuries. I think if he got 4-5 shots a game, maybe 10 plays total he would be fine. But when he's out there 20-30 times it's to much and he's not going to help. I think the Hester package was for just that but b/c the O was so bad that the package was never really able to be used.
Hester is only really good on curl's/posts where he's going to stop see the ball come into his hands and be in space(behind LB's in front of DB's) so that he can use his elusivness to move in space and gain extra yards. Think back to his first TD in the first few weeks, it was a pretty catch, and a tough one. Or the one where cutler went over the LoS but completed a short pass to Hester who was in space and got into the redzone. Get him out there for those type plays, give him 4-5 shots and I think he can help you, but when inj's hurt he cannot move up and there is the real shortcoming.
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Jimmors
He won't retire. Juvenile reaction though.
Yeah that would be my first reaction too if I were him but next week things will be different. Actually if I was Devin Hester I'd be far more concerned about whether I'd even be on the team next year myself.
Hester may be one of he few tradeable commodities Emery has that could bring us a mid round pick. I think Hester's reaction makes it pretty clear that Lovie has championed his cause as a WR and with Lovie gone Hester knows he'll never see the field as a front line WR in Chicago ever again.
Ordinarily I wouldn't be in favor of trading the greatest return specialist in the history of the game but he's an example of a guy that Lovie would hand on to until the last dog died when it's clear that his return skills have deteriorated. I don't think it's as much on the physical side as it is the mental. These last few games he's made some horrible decisions on some of his returns.
If we can get value for him I'd look into trading him but if not well then get him back to focusing on his returns exclusively and take him out of the offense except as a special use type of player. He simply doesn't have the goods to be a starting WR.
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Want to retire? Buh-bye! There is only ONE player on his team I would be upset to see gone. It ain't Hester. It ain't Urlacher. It ain't Briggs. It ain't even Cutler or P-Nut. It' Marshall!!! Hester should've been traded years ago. Urlacher is done. Briggs is nearing the end & I don't feel like dealing with his annual contract complaints anymore. P-Nut is coming to the end. Marshall though is the best WR I've ever seen in a Bears uni.
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