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Thread: Lovie Smith: A Look Back at Mediocrity

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    3nag, what you are saying doesn't take into account that Lovie had A LOT of say in the personel after the SB apperance. Both in FA and in the draft. So he also gets a lot of blame in the team that he was given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    3nag, what you are saying doesn't take into account that Lovie had A LOT of say in the personel after the SB apperance. Both in FA and in the draft. So he also gets a lot of blame in the team that he was given.
    In addition to all of this, I look at our struggles at developing talent. That's coaching. Our players would sometimes go to other teams, and were developed into good players who contributed for years, helping their new teams. It wasn't ALL on Jerry Angelo.

    I do blame Jerry though
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    Trestman - Kromer - Tucker - DeCamillis

    I'm looking forward to seeing these guys coach. Hope they're good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    3nag, what you are saying doesn't take into account that Lovie had A LOT of say in the personel after the SB apperance. Both in FA and in the draft. So he also gets a lot of blame in the team that he was given.
    Actually, he was responsible for Adam Archulater...wasn't he...??? Yeah, Lovie SUCKED...!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    In addition to all of this, I look at our struggles at developing talent. That's coaching. Our players would sometimes go to other teams, and were developed into good players who contributed for years, helping their new teams. It wasn't ALL on Jerry Angelo.

    I do blame Jerry though
    (had to add ^^^ for 4th and 26)
    On a side note, that is the reason why I do not understand people disliking Cutler. When was the last time the Bears developed, OR SUSTAINED, QB play...Erik Kramer...???
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    But if Cutler has to many flaws to win a SB, you cannot stay w/him Nag.

    And just b/c the past says we cannot, if you get an HC that is a O minded guy w/a history of developing them(Greg Roman, McCoy) then you cannot assume they cannot do it here.

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    Wash you mouth out with lye soap, we have had enough DCs as our HC to last a life time. Its time we moved into the real world and got us a Offensive minded HC. If we wanted a DC as our HC we might as well of kept Lovie.

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    Arizona is looking for a HC and down there mediocrity might be considered a great improvement. Wisenhunt can come to Chicago as an OC if we hire a DC as our HC.

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    I guess some place along the way you missed the fact that JA didn't make a move on a player without Lovies ok, except for Cutler which neither one had a chose in.


    Quote Originally Posted by 3nagurski View Post
    Whilst I do not doubt (and appreciate) the effort used in the creation of your thread, I have one question. How does a (not BAD) HC, in his ninth season no less, allow for the fact that the Bears could not get their offensive plays in to the huddle in a timely fashion...??? His win\loss record is predicated upon the rosters provided by Jerry Angelo, so, it is somewhat misleading. However, is there an arguement to say that Lovie SUCKED in regards to the intangibles: clock management, play-calling, half-time adjustments, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    But if Cutler has to many flaws to win a SB, you cannot stay w/him Nag.

    And just b/c the past says we cannot, if you get an HC that is a O minded guy w/a history of developing them(Greg Roman, McCoy) then you cannot assume they cannot do it here.
    True, but, there are much more important things to worry about at this time other than QB play...

    ,,,if the Bears are looking to build, not rebuild, the QB position should not even be an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nagurski View Post
    True, but, there are much more important things to worry about at this time other than QB play...

    ,,,if the Bears are looking to build, not rebuild, the QB position should not even be an issue.
    it's not linear, multiple things can be done to fix this, while also protecting the qb position. If Emery can solidify the OL and TE position via FA(possible), then all of a sudden it's not hard to deal w/the QB position in the middle rounds.

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