ya finley is not very good.. very overated
i agree with whoever said guys who are 6'7 usually dont do well at guard.. his position is probably RT..
also, i dont think mike wallace is coming here, he is going to demand a big big contract.. and if he was here, as the deep threat he would not be lining up in the slot he would be on the outside
Agree completely, Grizz, on Carimi. Its a year too early to think about moving on from him at RT just because he struggled in his (in effect) rookie year coming off injury/surgery without a full offseason of recovery/OTA time. If he isn't a whole lot better a year from now, then that's something very different to consider, but not right now.
Originally Posted by Grizzblue
Everyone has their FA "wish list", but I can't see any way that a vet LT isn't the #1 priority by far if there's a player or two (Long, Albert, etc) who hit the open market. Its very very unlikely that we will be able to draft an immediate Webb-replacement at #20, so failing to "make a serious run" at an LT in FA basically means Webb will be the starter and we all know what compromises that entails.
Not saying these other positions aren't "needs", but we can draft interior OLs, a WR, a LB, and maybe even a TE if the FA market doesn't pan out precisely to Emery's liking. We simply can't draft a starting LT at #20...or it is exceedingly unlikely anyway. Those type guys almost never fall out of the top-10. Pushing Webb down the OT depth chart has to be Emery's #1 priority this offseason in terms of player acquisitions, if at all possible.
Getting a decent receiving TE to upgrade Davis (not exactly a stretch there) should be doable in FA too and shouldn't cost all that much, considering $3.5 mil/yr is currently being wasted on him and he should be a forgone conclusion to be cut. We can get a stud interior OL--hello, Barrett Jones, OC for the next decade--in the late 1st, a SLB/MLB prospect in round 2, and a speedy slot WR guy in round 4-5. And that assumes no trades or trade-downs to net another mid-round pick. Frankly, I'd dangle Hester +/- a late round pick and see if someone will offer us a 4th or so. If we get a bite, that frees some additional cap space and could allow a QB or OG prospect to also enter the draft mix. That's how I see it, very preliminary as it is now.
That's my feeling too.
Originally Posted by MPBears68
I've been thinking about this a ton (the oline woes). I want to see the new regime bring in a guy that actually KNOWS something about developing offensive linemen, and let him grade out the guys we have now. My gut feeling is that we may have a few really solid guys already, that can be added to the people we bring in during the off-season.
Then the Bears can add a couple of stud interior linemen through the draft, or if a great, and proven FA is a possibility, then grab him. I agree the LT guy will probably need to be a FA acquisition.
But my gut feeling is that we will be MUCH improved if we have a REAL oline coach set the offensive line early in training camp this year - and leave the guys alone. Let 'em learn their positions without screwing with them (making guards tackles, and tackles guards, and guards centers, and constantly changing the lineup every game or two).
Tice killed any chance we had of success with our existing guys. He didn't just shoot himself in the foot - it's like he blew it off with a 12 gauge shotgun.
Let the new coaches:
1. Grade out our existing OL roster.
2. Upgrade the OL personnel as needed.
3. Pick our starting lineup early in TC.
4. Leave the men alone so they can reach their full potential as a unit - with each guy at a single position.
I am not disagreeing with you, but too many times in the NFL you hear this guy is too tall, too short, too small, too big and then they go out and show us all we were wrong.Remember Robert Gallery he was a RT, LT and a bust at both, played his best at gurad he was also 6'7"
Originally Posted by MPBears68
Carimi is not a gaurd and unless we are shooting for another Colombo disaster then he should be at RT next year and hopefully start to show the ability he had in college/last year Pre injury
But as far as FA we need a LT above all (long) and then a TE
After that maybe we add a speedy WR, and some other depth at various places
Now if we were to hire a 3-4 coach we would need a 0 or 1 nose gaurd also
Add in a first round stud (Barret) and we have a real competitive oline
I've heard that Jermichael Finley might get cut by the Packers because of his being inconsistent at best, plus his propensity for injury. I've heard that on during broadcasts, during NFL Live and on NFL Network. There is a chance the Packers may cut him loose. The question is whether the Bears should pick him up if they do keeping in mind all those things I mentioned.
Originally Posted by ZifanQ
Dustin Keller would be an upgrade over what we've had, but I think I'd rather have Jermichael Finley slamming his body around against the Green Bay secondary.
EDIT: However, if Finley is as bad a blocker as some people claim he is, maybe Dustin Keller wouldn't be such a bad choice after all, assuming that he is able to come back and be 100% healthy again.
It would be nice if we had say B.Berrian or Devin Aromashadu and G.Olsen to add w/ what we have minus Hester! Put Hester permantely back on ST w/ Weems man.....just my opinion
I'd like to believe we get a LT and TE in FA. Drafting a few OG's and throw in a TE somewhere should go a long way to reviving the line. If we didn't have a pressing need to get LB's it would be a top end offensive draft. I still believe if we get a LT and TE in FA we could trade down, get 2 OG and a LB in the upper half of the draft. We need talent, youth, and bodies probably in that order.
I'm excited to see what a full scouting dept. and a HC with an offensive mind can do.
Biggest goal of FA will be a LT if we can land one, we will be in a great position to draft a center or gaurd (Barret jones please) and have a real workable and effective line
If we miss on a Lt in FA chances are Webb is the guy again this year as a starting LT is quite hard to find outside of top 8 or so