Thread: ESPN poll rankings for the Chicago Bears HC job.

Originally Posted by VJ18

Holmgren would be a good coach. Ok before throwing the screen and smashing your computers into pieces just hear me out. Theres a saying that goes "no coach that wins a superbowl can win another somewhere else" well guess what Holmgren was the closet with first Green Bay and later Seattle. He rebuild Cleveland's Defense and got ranked pretty darn good. Hes a Offensive genius with QB's and other offensive players. Putting two teams in the superbowl is hard enough and ill praise him for that but i think we should take a hard look at him.

One concern I have with any of the "big name" candidates is that they will demand - and get - too much of the GM's power. I "get it" that any HC needs to have serious input into personnel decisions, but when a HC gets too much power in that direction, it is not good. If a team has a solid GM, who is exemplary at evaluating draft and FA talent, then he serves as a "reality check" for the coach IMHO.

Maybe I'm just too worried about this since we just survived the Jerry Angelo & Lovie Smith era of talent woes, where it was "the blind leading the blind" regarding this stuff.

Nothing wrong with a coach having a GREAT relationship with the GM, and having serious input into personnel acquisition decisions. But it needs to be input only. With this in mind, I have to believe that a guy like Holmgren would not come here unless he was given unlimited GM and HC powers - combined. Emery would just be a figurehead. Not good IMHO.

What do you guys think about the Colts acting HC, Bruce Arians?

1.Jon Gruden	162,703	4,438
2.Mike McCoy	155,729	2,272
3.Bill Cowher	151,138	3,151
4.Bruce Arians	113,118	468
5.Kyle Shanahan	110,702	356
6.Chip Kelly	107,641	712
7.Andy Reid	100,209	399
8.Pete Carmichael	93,471	128
9.Jay Gruden	86,843	68
10.Dave Toub	80,601	157
11.Greg Roman	76,418	59
12.Keith Armstrong	56,603	44
13.Tom Clements	51,027	24
14.Mike Sullivan	45,430	354
15.Joe DeCamillis	41,557	119

guys in red aren't even on my radar, Gruden is 14 games over .500 in 14 years w/1 sb appearance and 4 div titles, that is not a suggnificant improvement over Lovie, ecspecially w/the fact he's been out of coaching so long. Cower said no thanks to coaching, Ried is set to be the HC of KC. Kyle Shanny was so enamored w/Rex Grossman he told his daddy to bring him to Wash from Hou.

1	Mike McCoy
2a	Tom Clements
2b	Bruce Arians
4	Chip Kelly
5	Pete Carmichael
6	Jay Gruden
7	Greg Roman
8	Mike Sullivan
9	Joe DeCamillis
10	Dave Toub
11	Keith Armstrong

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

guys in red aren't even on my radar, Gruden is 14 games over .500 in 14 years w/1 sb appearance and 4 div titles, that is not a suggnificant improvement over Lovie, ecspecially w/the fact he's been out of coaching so long. Cower said no thanks to coaching, Ried is set to be the HC of KC. Kyle Shanny was so enamored w/Rex Grossman he told his daddy to bring him to Wash from Hou.

1	Mike McCoy
2a	Tom Clements
2b	Bruce Arians
4	Chip Kelly
5	Pete Carmichael
6	Jay Gruden
7	Greg Roman
8	Mike Sullivan
9	Joe DeCamillis
10	Dave Toub
11	Keith Armstrong

I like your top 3.