Our coaching staff sucks at this and the new HC better change that.
Our coaching staff sucks at this and the new HC better change that.
Here are some of our really badly "developed" QB's on the Bears :lol-032:
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HM1: Kordell Stewart. The 2001 Pro Bowler came to Chicago with high hopes. 'Slash' could do it all run, pass, catch, kick, block...well...back in 2001. By the time #10 wore a Bears uniform in 2003 he was a shell of himself. Stewart threw 7 TDs, but threw 12 interceptions while completing only 50% of his passes. The Bears offense in 2003 struggled on all levels, so it wasn't completely all-Stewart. But he got votes here for leading one of the Bears' worst played games ever: The 2003 Opening Day debacle at San Francisco, and for getting a CTCR of 15.9. (12 interceptions plus 25 sacks plus 7 fumbles / 283 dropbacks. What keeps him out? The guy could improvise on the field; he could run the ball. Plus, he led the Bears to an upset win in Denver. There you go flat top!
HM2: Steve Stenstrom I know what you're thinking. 'Stenstrom didn't make the top 10!' Trust me, we're going to get much worse. Stenstrom had a cup of coffee on the 1997 squad, and then had to take over for Mirer in 1998. Stenstrom's '98 numbers weren't anything to write home about. The Stanford graduate went 1-6 as a starter and committed 31 CATs in 219 dropbacks. This led to a Catastrophe Rating of 14%. He doesn't make the list due to a 300 yard passing performance against a 15-1 Vikings squad, and for not being absolutely horrific. And yes...there are 10 worse.
HM3: Moses Moreno. Our guy! Everybody loves Moses Moreno! Like Hanie, Moreno was a Colorado State product who always seemed to have his feet moving in the pocket. This was good for evading sacks (Which is amazing because he was actually never sacked in 43 dropbacks), but also needless throws on the run. While the 1998 backup started the regular season finale at Tampa Bay, he was able to finagle a touchdown pass and win our hearts. God bless you, Moses...but you didn't make the list
THE TOP 10 WORST CHICAGO BEARS QUARTERBACKS SINCE 1986
10. Cade McNown 1999-2000
How could Cade McNown make it and Moses Moreno not make it? You would seriously put Stenstrom in front of a starter? The thing is McNown was the worst of the regular starting quarterbacks since 1986. Not Tomczak, Harbaugh, Kreig, Matthews, Miller, Orton, etc. The list goes on. What I mean by regular is making at least 12 starts. In McNown's career, he was a putrid 3-12 as Bears starter. He was clueless in the Bears offense, yielding a 13 CTCR in 1999 and a 14 CTCR in 2000. He did throw for over 300 yards in 1999 against a playoff-bound Lions team. However, this event delayed the inevitable. After some spotty performances in 2000, ole' MacNuisance was gone. While guys like Stenstrom and Moreno had their faults, they were not responsible for holding back their organization for years at one position.
9. Doug Flutie, 1986
Some people say that Mike Ditka lost his team during the 1987 strike when he called his striking players 'prima donnas'. This writer believes it started the year before, in 1986, when Ditka championed the dimunitive Flutie for the Bears' title run. All scouts said Flutie was too small to play in the NFL. Ditka was adamant that the former BC star could help the Bears deal with the abrupt late season injury to Jim McMahon. When Flutie came in for relief during a home game against Tampa, results were mixed. Flutie wasn't terrible in the regular season finale at Dallas, but it was in the 1986 NFC Divisional Playoff against Washington that moved Flutie into this group. #2 was an anemic 11 for 31 throwing the football, and only completed a 50 yard touchdown to Willie Gault based on the speedster's adjustment to the throw. YouTube actually has a compilation of just how horrible Flutie was. (Click Here) Flutie's combined stats show 34/77, 4 TD, 4 INT, 3 Fumbles, and 7 Sacks. That's 14 of 83 (16.1 CTCR), with a Pro Bowl offensive line and a 1,000 yard rusher to relieve you...by far the worst quarterback since 1986 given his surroundings. Needless to say, Flutie didn't last long as a Bear.
8. Chad Hutchinson 2004
The whole thing didn't make sense. Chad Hutchinson was surfing one day, and the next he was throwing for over 300 yards against the playoff-bound Minnesota Vikings. The victory over Minnesota was one of the more unexpected wins of the decade. This performance was the only thing that kept Hutchinson from being lower. He also participated in what was arguably the worst Thanksgiving Day game in modern history. Hutchinson was responsible for losing his start against Dallas to Drew Henson...a man who never started another game. From the Minnesota game on, Hutchinson grew from bad to worse to painful. Chad completed 57% of his passes for 903 yards and 4 TDs, but was a statue in the pocket. 'Hutch' was sacked 23 times leading to 8 fumbles over a rather thin 192 dropbacks. Hutchinson also led the Bears to 8 total points over the next two games (and yes, two were from a safety). He gets a 17.7 CTCR, and a wonderful spot on the committee.
7. P.T. Willis, 1991-1993
Peter Tom Willis graduated from Florida State with some serious potential. The Bears picked him up as a potential wild card in the 'StrangleMyself' Quarterback Competitions of the early 90's. Willis and Hanie were actually very similar. Willis had shown serious areas of growth during a couple relief appearances...however, this slowly deteriorated. Willis was a fantastic pre-season quarterback. Willis threw 8 interceptions and was sacked 10 times in only 102 dropbacks for a robust 17.6 CTCR in 1992. The tough times really came through in 1993 after an injury to Jim Harbaugh. Willis came in relief late in the season while the Bears were trying to make the playoffs and may have been the single reason behind the team's downfall. In 67 dropbacks, Willis threw 5 picks, was sacked 5 times, fumbled twice and did not score one touchdown. Given the 1993 Bears may have been the worst passing team of all-time (Yes, maybe worse than 2004), maybe it's tough to blame Willis completely for the breakdown. The Bears had only 7 passing touchdowns for the whole year. (Please read and re-read the previous sentence) Willis' 17.9 CTCR for 1993 makes him consistently awful. Congratulations, P.T. Willis...you're the 7th worst Chicago Bears quarterback I've ever seen.
6. Henry Burris, 2002
Poor Henry Burris. O'Henry is a CFL legend, somewhere below Doug Flutie and Warren Moon. But when Burris came in relief to face the 2002 Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccanneers...things got bad...real bad. Burris could be lower, but his competition was top of the line. Burris' performance was so inept it became memorable. Burris finished 2002 against Carolina and Tampa Bay going 18 of 51 for 207 yards, 3 TD, 5 INT, and 4 fumbles. Burris was quick, so he was never sacked. It was his 5 interception performance against Tampa that made him memorable. Only 55 dropbacks yielded a CTCR of 16.3. God help us...and god help poor Henry Burris...I still think Warren Sapp is sitting on him.
5. Will Furrer, 1992
Will Furrer tested higher than any other Chicago Bears quarterback since 1986. Is it even fair to put a guy who attempted 25 passes on this list? How could I be so cruel? Well, Ditka sold Bears fans during his final year that he may have found something special in Furrer...then the southpaw appeared in a game at Cleveland Stadium looking like Bobby Douglass on a crack binge. Furrer was so uncomfortable in the pocket that it made his gun of an arm pointless. Furrer played against Cleveland and then was given a chance by Ditka to face the 1992 World Champion Dallas Cowboys. Way to provide some confidence in a young man, Mike! Furrer ended the year 9 of 25 for 89 yards, 0 TD's, 3 picks, 4 sacks, and a gaping CTCR of 24.1. For all you mathmaticians out there, that means that nearly 1/4 of the time Furrer dropped back, something catastrophic happened. Waste of a draft pick. Thanks, Virginia Tech!
4. Craig Krenzel, 2004
I love meatball Bears fans! Hey, where would this site be without meatballs? We all have a little meatball in all of us. However, the 'He Just Wins Games' morons were out in full force after Craig Krenzel started his career 3-0. Never mind that the 2004 quarterback got his 3 wins by virtue of playing a horrific Niners team, a defense that annihilated the Giants for a half, and another game where they beat the Titans on a punt return and safety. Great job, Craig! You...uh...still suck. This Ohio State product never even showed a glimpse of pro potential. Many people on this list had a moment, a game (see: Hutchinson, Stewart, McNown)...Krenzel just was a bi-product of a defense that was on the verge of becoming great. Krenzel's 04 figures are staggering since they dwarf everybody else based on volume. Krenzel only completed 46% of his passes, had 6 INTs, 718 yards, 8 fumbles, and 23 sacks in 158 dropbacks. That's a CTCR of 23.4...the highest for attempts amongst any Bears player. If you look at yards/dropback, that's 4.5 yards. You can't beat that...if you have no arms.
3. Rick Mirer, 1997
Oh, oh, oh, how badly I wanted to put him #1. Rick Mirer did a smashing job destroying the 1997 season and leading Dave Wannstedt out the door in 1998. It should be noted that Mirer faced playoff teams in Weeks 3, 4, and 5. His first starting job came against the defending AFC Champion New England Patriots and was followed by rude awakenings by Dallas and Detroit. However, it was Mirer's 6th game that leaves a legacy. Mirer lost a close decision at home to New Orleans Saints stalwart QB Heath Shuler. That deserves a CTCR game ball! Mirer oversaw a three week stretch where the offense scored a combined 13 points. He couldn't run, he couldn't throw, and he cost the Bears a lot of money. The man from Notre Dame was pathetic. He threw no touchdowns and six interceptions. He was sacked 16 times and fumbled 4 times. In 123 dropbacks, QuagMirer was catastrophic 26 times...which is good for a robust 21 CTCR.
2. Todd Collins
Yes! He's not #1! The Bears needed a calming veteran presence on the sideline while Jay Cutler ran his new offense. Insert Todd Collins! The former Buffalo Bills starter seemed to be a perfect compliment to the quiet Cutler. After Collins' performance against the Carolina Panthers, many wondered if it was worth the chance. Collins went 10 for 27. 68 yards. 2.5 yards per attempt. 0 touchdowns, 5 interceptions, 2 sacks. It's a CTCR of 24%. The man was horrible in relief of Cutler. His specialty? The drive-killing interception! I love that man.
1. Jonathan Quinn
At no point during the development of Jonathan Quinn did he look like a qualified NFL player. But Terry Shea thought so. Bears offensive coordinator Terry Shea came from Kansas City preaching a new style of offense. The Bears felt it would be in their best interest to use a quarterback familiar in the system as a backup. Quinn met all the requirements...except for being able to throw a ball.
Quinn's stats don't match the people before him. However, he represents the ineptitude for Bears quarterbacks since 1986. This guy was discovered, sold as the answer, and then looked worse than any Bears quarterback...ever. Some plays in particular that I liked from Quinn...The four yard in-route thrown to the player's knees. The 3rd and 18 checkdown that leads to a 2 yard gain. And the best of the best...the 'I followed through too far and I chucked the ball at the ground so far that it bounced right back up and I caught it for a six yard loss' play. I love that play.
What made Quinn so special was that he didn't have any touch. Tomczak was the same way, but Tomczak made plays. Quinn made my stomach hurt. Quinn threw screen passes like he was trying to knock the pins down at the county fair. Although he yielded a CTCR of 17.4, which doesn't beat everybody, his lack of any discernable talent creating a void in my heart that I have tried to fill to this day keeps him down on this list...okay, maybe that was too much. He just stunk.
What was the past does not indicate future performance. Ecspecially when you consider that this might be the first O minded HC the team has had in a LONG while.
I've seen so many failed Bears coaching regimes, that I'm not "assuming" this next regime is solid. It's like that "I'm from Missouri" saying of "show me" and then I'll believe. Then I'll buy in. I'm hoping for the best, and will be 100% positive about a coaching change. But "future performance" doesn't mean anything until we see that performance.
Hope the Bears win the Super Bowl and the Cubs win the next World Series. Go Bears.
Chicago Bears: Should the Bears Look for a Quarterback in the Draft? | Bleacher Report
Easy to criticize the guy who has had 6 offensive coordinators in the 7 years he's been in the league. Bears have never bothered to help him out on offense. If Cutler has an o line he'll be okay. I think they'll have Cutler preform next season and then decide. This year's college qb stock is very weak. There will not be a best player available at qb when the bears pick. Why would they use the Draft for positions currently not a necessity in Chicago? Blanchard will probably move to second string. Anyway I'm happy to have him back and can't wait to see him play again.Quote:
Should the Bears Look for a Quarterback in the Draft?
Up until Jay Cutler's arrival in Chicago prior to the 2009 season, the organization struggled to find consistency at the quarterback position.
With just one year left on Cutler's contract and there still being an unknown at the head coach position, the Bears could be looking to add depth to a position that has long been a weakness of the team.
General Manager Phil Emery made it a point in his press conference following the firing of Lovie Smith to praise Cutler (h/t Chicago Sun-Times):
"Am I convinced that Jay has the talent to be that? Yes, I am. I see Jay as a franchise quarterback. We've got to build around him. That's been the goal from the beginning, to build around Jay and to build our team towards championships."Despite getting the praise from Emery, Cutler is still an aging QB with a contract ending after next season. The time is now for the Bears to start looking not only for the present but for the future.
Current backup quarterback, Jason Campbell, is set to be a free agent, as is third-string quarterback, Josh McCown, once free agency begins in March. Campbell struggled in limited time this season and McCown was never anything more than insurance. It is likely that a new head coach and staff will look in another direction for a veteran backup.
Undrafted rookie Matt Blanchard, who got an invite to training camp and spent a good portion of the season on the practice squad, was signed to a reserve/future contract on Monday (h/t ESPN Chicago) but likely is not viewed as much more than a third-string quarterback at best.
It is hard to determine which direction the Bears will be going in until they hire a new coach. But despite the lack of a top-tier quarterback talent in the draft, Chicago could find itself with many options later on in the draft.
Landry Jones, Oklahoma, Porjected Round: 3
Jones had his share of ups and downs at Oklahoma and benefited greatly from having terrific weapons around him. Having said that, his throwing motion and mechanics will cause him to drop in the draft.
He is extremely accurate, but his throwing motion needs to be tightened up and his footwork needs to improve, particularly when feeling pressure in the pocket. Much like Cutler, he has a tendency to trust his arm too much, though he is very good at reading defenses at the line of scrimmage and working his way through progressions.
The Bears currently do not own a third-round pick in this year's draft due to the Brandon Marshall trade, but if they feel they can develop Jones, the Bears may believe he's worth trading up to get.
Zac Dysert, Miami Ohio, Projected Round: 4-5
Much like the former MAC quarterbacks before him, Zac Dysert has had to continually prove to scouts week in and week out that he has a future in the NFL.
An accurate thrower with above average speed, he has the ability to keep plays alive and is great throwing the ball on the run. He threw for over 3,400 yards with 25 touchdowns and 13 interceptions, mostly with inferior talent around him. His slow release and tendency to force the ball can get him into trouble, and not having played in a pro-style offense at Miami means he will likely need some time to adjust to a different offensive scheme.
He has the ability to improve his stock at the Senior Bowl, but as it stands, he is likely to be a mid-fourth to early fifth-round pick. He could benefit from sitting behind Cutler, a quarterback with similar attributes.
Collin Klein, Kansas State, Projected Round: 6-7
Viewed by some as much better passing version of Tim Tebow, Klein burst onto the scene this year, throwing for over 2,500 yards and 16 touchdowns, while rushing for 920 yards and 23 touchdowns. He was very much a run-first quarterback put has flashed the ability to be good passer if given the opportunity to learn.
His mechanics need some fine tuning, especially his footwork, as he has a tendency to not always square up his body when making a throw. He can be fairly accurate in the short-to-intermediate passing game but struggles to get the ball ahead of his receivers on downfield throws.
He is likely a long shot to make an impact in the league as a quarterback, but the Bears' new head coach and his staff may view a guy like Klein as someone with all the necessary potential and if given an opportunity to fine tune his skills, he may surprise some people.
Is it a given that the Bears will be trying to improve their quarterback position? No. But for years they have gotten by with signing guys off of the street and not developing their guys under center.
If Phil Emery is serious about getting the next great offensive mind in place as his head coach, then now would be the perfect time to find a young quarterback to mold.