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    Cutler Show: Jay wants Hester to stay

    Cutler Show: Jay wants Hester to stay - Chicago Bears Blog - ESPN Chicago


    By Michael C. Wright | ESPNChicago.com

    Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler made it clear he wants Devin Hester to return for the 2013 season, and he acknowledged it is "safe to say" the receiver might flourish in a new offense likely to be brought in once the team hires a new coach to replace Lovie Smith.

    "He's one of the most dynamic players in the NFL with the football," Cutler said Wednesday during "The Jay Cutler Show" on ESPN 1000. "So you don't want to go against a guy like that. You don't want to see him on the other sideline."

    Cutler's remarks came in response to questions about Hester's recent statements in which he expressed a desire to retire from the NFL.

    Responding to the news about the club's decision to fire Smith last Monday, Hester said he no longer enjoys the game.

    "I don't even know if I want to play again, man. That's been on my mind for two years now. It ain't (fun)," Hester said. "So I have my workers comp papers in my pocket. (I'll) see how I feel, go home, talk to my wife, my family; see where we go from there. I've got two beautiful kids, man. Two boys. A lot of stress has been on my mind lately."

    Clearly shaken by the firing of Smith, Hester said "the media, the false fans, you got what y'all wanted. (The) majority of you all want him all out."

    Hester admitted his lack of production resulted in stress off the field. After establishing himself as one of the greatest returners in NFL history, Hester tried to transition over to receiver, but the move never successfully panned out. Hester caught 57 catches in 2009, but his production dropped each subsequent season, with the receiver hauling in 23 balls in 2012.

    "Not being able to showcase my talents the way I want them to be able to be showcased, it's stressful," Hester said.

    Hester later took to Twitter to clarify remarks about retiring.

    "Let me make myself clear the reason why I feel like retiring," Hester posted. "Has nothing to do with Lovie Smith getting fired. It's hard to play the game when you're not happy and you're having fun with what you do in life."

    Cutler expressed empathy Wednesday for Hester's situation, adding he hasn't yet talked to the receiver.

    "I think (Brandon Marshall) went to dinner with him and talked to him a little bit," Cutler said. "I'm not for sure about that. Emotional guys. Lovie brought him in. When these things happen, sometimes you're put in front of a camera and you say things that maybe you don't mean.

    "Maybe he meant it. I have no idea. Whenever you go out there and you don't do the things you think you can do on the football field, it's frustrating. Frustration builds up and builds up, and it forces you to think about doing other things I guess."

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    I'll say it again, I see a role for a guy like Hester, not as a 1 or a 2 or 3, but in the 4th-6th area. Early in the year he made a tough TD grab, that many would not beleive he could have made, same w/that 3rd down catch he got for a 1st down. It was the Bennett/Jeffery inj's, and lack of depth that forced him to move up that put him out of favor w/most fans this year.
    I would love to see an OC come in that saw the same thing many here have seen, put him in the flat, facing the catch and allow him to move in space; or have him there as an option when everything breaks down like he did when he got that 30 yards(called back b/c Cutler was over the LoS). Is he a 60-70 catch guy, no that's too many, but a 45-50 catch guy hell ya(about 3-4 catches a game), ecspecially when teams cannot afford to cover him b/c he's not intercal to the gameplan and other WR's are out there that NEED covered(Marshal/Bennett/Jeffery).

    But he cannot be allowed to be moved inot the 2-3 area, there has to be other WR options that can step in for Jeffery/Bennett b/c he cannot do it.

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    his returns sucked and it doesn't matter if he is explosiv with the ball in his hands... he won't get to ball in his hands. He can't catch them. He will drop them.
    Seems like the same comments Cutler made before Lovie was fired. Hester isn't worth the money anymore and will be gone. Cutler knows this and wants to look like the good teammate.

    You know what I want him to say? The truth about the OLine. I hope he calls them out and says that Emery has to upgrade the line because coaching and the players themself couldn't lift them to a better level
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    Well, what did you expect him to say? "No, I don't want him back. He is holding outle offense down." Players don't throw their teammates under the bus when they are on the record. They might shove them on television, but they never throw them (by name) under the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    his returns sucked and it doesn't matter if he is explosiv with the ball in his hands... he won't get to ball in his hands. He can't catch them. He will drop them.
    Seems like the same comments Cutler made before Lovie was fired. Hester isn't worth the money anymore and will be gone. Cutler knows this and wants to look like the good teammate.

    You know what I want him to say? The truth about the OLine. I hope he calls them out and says that Emery has to upgrade the line because coaching and the players themself couldn't lift them to a better level
    I hope you're right, German. I really hope that Bears management and staff aren't seduced by the Hester fallacy yet again. I'm sick of hearing that crap every year...how finally this season Hester will "shine" yada yada yada.

    Move On.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPBears68 View Post
    I hope you're right, German. I really hope that Bears management and staff aren't seduced by the Hester fallacy yet again. I'm sick of hearing that crap every year...how finally this season Hester will "shine" yada yada yada.

    Move On.
    It's easy to fall for the hype. He DOES look really good in training camp. I've seen it. But something happens to him during the season and he doesn't put the effort out there.

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    Maybe Hester can be used better. To be honest I don't know. I do know that at training camp each year he looks great as a receiver. But he doesn't show that during the regular season.

    I posted a thread here a few months ago regarding how Hester ranked as far as dropping passes. Over the past 3 seasons (2009-2011) he had a drop rate of 10.29%. He had dropped 14 of 136 "catchable" passes. That put him as having the 15th worst hands in the NFL over those three seasons.

    That same stat source (profootballfocus.com), had Earl Bennett with the BEST hands over that same time period. Bennett had a drop rate of 3.15% - the best in the NFL, and just ahead of Larry Fitzgerald.

    There were some good WR's who had high drop rates too. B.Marsh drops a lot of balls. But the author made the point that you also need to judge a receiver by his route running and other attributes. The problem regarding Hester, is that he also is a poor route runner. Obviously B.Marsh makes up for drops by making great plays all season long. Hester does not.

    Here's the LINK to the stats in case you're interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    Maybe Hester can be used better. To be honest I don't know. I do know that at training camp each year he looks great as a receiver. But he doesn't show that during the regular season.

    I posted a thread here a few months ago regarding how Hester ranked as far as dropping passes. Over the past 3 seasons (2009-2011) he had a drop rate of 10.29%. He had dropped 14 of 136 "catchable" passes. That put him as having the 15th worst hands in the NFL over those three seasons.

    That same stat source (profootballfocus.com), had Earl Bennett with the BEST hands over that same time period. Bennett had a drop rate of 3.15% - the best in the NFL, and just ahead of Larry Fitzgerald.

    There were some good WR's who had high drop rates too. B.Marsh drops a lot of balls. But the author made the point that you also need to judge a receiver by his route running and other attributes. The problem regarding Hester, is that he also is a poor route runner. Obviously B.Marsh makes up for drops by making great plays all season long. Hester does not.

    Here's the LINK to the stats in case you're interested.
    You mentioned dropped balls and bad routes. With Hester, I believe it's the OTHER attributes that are even worse....

    Hester doesn't continue to engage his defender when the play goes elsewhere.
    Hester doesn't go after balls past his fingertips.
    Hester doesn't come back to help out the QB.
    Hester doesn't turn into a defender after an INT.


    I will never forget a play a couple years ago, when the ball went to Forte, and he ran 50 yards down the left sideline. He was stopped at the 5 yard line by the guy covering Hester way over on the other sideline. He broke for the play, Hester didn't. Sure touchdown negated by Hester cuz he didn't block his guy.

    I don't know, is he afraid to get hit? He sure seems to play that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    You know what I want him to say? The truth about the OLine. I hope he calls them out and says that Emery has to upgrade the line because coaching and the players themself couldn't lift them to a better level
    Actually that's the worst thing Jay could do right now. The media is seriously blaming him for RGIII's injury, most people in this country hate him and believe he's a pussy. And then you want Jay to openly throw a teammate under the bus? There has been enough drama for that little "incident" on the sideline during the GB game this year, no need for more bad publicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark86x View Post
    You mentioned dropped balls and bad routes. With Hester, I believe it's the OTHER attributes that are even worse....

    Hester doesn't continue to engage his defender when the play goes elsewhere.
    Hester doesn't go after balls past his fingertips.
    Hester doesn't come back to help out the QB.
    Hester doesn't turn into a defender after an INT.


    I will never forget a play a couple years ago, when the ball went to Forte, and he ran 50 yards down the left sideline. He was stopped at the 5 yard line by the guy covering Hester way over on the other sideline. He broke for the play, Hester didn't. Sure touchdown negated by Hester cuz he didn't block his guy.

    I don't know, is he afraid to get hit? He sure seems to play that way.
    Sometimes I wonder if Hester doesn't "process" information on the fly very well. This is different from being dumb. Think about his career here (the entire body of work). He has incredible ability when he just reacts with his instincts.

    However, being a solid WR at the NFL level requires some quick judgments on-the-fly, and adjustments in nanoseconds. I think Hester just can't process stuff like that. On kick/punt returns though, he seems to be at his best when he just grabs the rock and lives on his instincts.

    I will always have GREAT memories of Devin Hester's electrifying special teams play. I'm gonna choose to remember him that way. Kudo's to Jay Cutler for not throwing him under the bus during his interview.
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