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About LinkBacksI guess I'm a little disappointed. I thought there would have been "bigger" names like McCoy and Dennison in the final round. Well give me Bruce Arians then. Don't believe Trestman and Bevell are any better than Lovie.
Marc Trestman
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I guess I'm a little disappointed. I thought there would have been "bigger" names like McCoy and Dennison in the final round. Well give me Bruce Arians then. Don't believe Trestman and Bevell are any better than Lovie.
Originally Posted by JJ-30
Yeah, that was my reaction. I'm not privvy to the inner workings of NFL coaching, but it would be uncomfortably odd to pick your next HC's OC for him.
Unless he agreed to it. And then, really... would you want a guy who would do that, to be the HC?
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I don't care if it is a "bigger" solution or those (what we think) 2nd tier options. Emery wasn't the guy that was seen as best hire and the "fan" solution and search. Realtiy is, we don't know much about whats going on and who is the best hire. Emery does. He has a plan in place and he knows what he needs to reach that. If he thinks McCoy or Dennison or Gruden isn't that guy, I trust in Emery until he proves to be wrong. Angelo has proven this. Emery hasn't. Emery showed that he knows what he is doing. I will never laugh at a GM that hires a coach that hasn't failed before (like hiring Singletary would be). They know why they pick those guys. They talked to them. I think Trestman makes a lot of sense. Has experience, is offensiv minded and when he entered a team, the offense of those teams got better. He made Gannon and we know that Cutler thinks highly of him - otherwise he wouldn't have gone to him to get some help. I also think Trestman has a lot of connections and will bring the best coordinators and coaches with him. Arians has that feel good story with him, but it looks like he doesn't know D.Bevell is that dark horse...
You know a week and a half ago McCoy was the name on everyone's lips and if not him then it was Arians and then Clement popped into the picture in a few heads. Trestman's name hadn't even come up until Jimmy Johnson anointed him the new Bears HC and Bevell wasn't even being mentioned around here or anywhere else that I know of and Dennison was only known to a few of us and mainly me from his work here in Denver before he joined Kubiak in Houston.
Now we see an article that says Bevell and Trestman are the front runners Arians is one of the top three, McCoy isn't even being mentioned and Dennison gets some press so he becomes a favorite around here. Hell of a week huh and Phil Emery hasn't made it any easier by virtue of holding about thirteen cards in his hand when all along he only intended to play the game with just two or three. Clever SOB ain't he.
I think any of these guys would make a damn fine HC from the perspective of turning the offense around. Arians did one hell of a job developing Luck very quickly but he has a somewhat finished product to begin with thanks to Jim Harbaugh who seems to be repeating that magic with Colin Kaepernick.
To me Dennison is probably the best candidate in terms of overall coaching skills because he played defense as a pro and played well, he's coached STeams, he has a rep as a very good OLine coach, he's been an OC under two different NFL HCs, and he's had Jay Cutler as his QB before. So where is the hole? The same on Tice had. Dennison has never been a play caller. Bates or Shanny were in Denver and Kubiak is in Houston. The other is that while he was Cutler's OC he never worked with him as a QB coach. Bates did. Since Emery wants a guy to help improve Cutler's game as well as the offense in general this one seems to hedge on whether or not he believes a combo of Dennison and Bates can do that like they did in Denver. So I think he's a strong maybe.
Bevell replaced Bates in Seattle and because of what he was able to do with Wilson out there he seems to have the hot hand as OC of the minute but can the Bears run that offense with Cutler? If he can I don't see it so he'll need to adapt to something more conventional and when they ran something more conventional that offense wasn't as good. Wilson makes that work and even with as much $$$ as they have tied up in Flynn it's clear that Wilson became their guy. Can he adapt, how well does he get along with Bates whom he replaced or vice versa if Emery wants Bates around for continuity sake? For some reason I just feel he's not the right guy now. Not unless Phil plans on a makeover.
McCoy would seem to have been a better candidate than Bevell so I'm puzzled now that the Broncos are out of it why we aren't hearing more unless he's indicated he preferred to stay put and that is possible. Elway may have whispered a nice figure for a raise in his ear and he's running an offense that doesn't need a whole lot of fixing with a team that's gonna be right back in the SB hunt again next year. He's also only 40 years old so he has some time yet before getting a HC spot becomes critical. If he's no longer on ofthe final two or three there must be a reason I just don't know exactly what it is.
And last but not least we have Trestman who actually may be the best candidate of all for what Phil Emery has in mind which is to rebuild that offense and rebuild Cutler into an All Pro QB. He's done that before in the NFL and more than once and to all of you who want to make light of that or his less than recent NFL experience I say those are excuses, not reasons, and every single one of those objections are overcome by facts. He's developed top NFL QBs and Super Winning QBs and he's run NFL offenses that have ranked as some of the best in the game. He is a strong candidate and he's also the only one with previous HC experience even if it was in the CFL. Whether it's up north or here in the US a HC still does what a HC does and he's done it very successfully if you look at his record in the CFL.
Anyway, we can almost always depend on Phil Emery to do something we didn't quite expect and Trestman comes very highly recommended by some NFL coaches with more than a few SB appearances under their belts so I would think they know what they're talking about. That aside I trust Phil Emery to have done his homework on Trestman and he wouldn't have gotten this far if Phil didn't think he was a top dog and could make a great NFL HC.
I think the current lineup of prospects looks so good that I don't think we'll be disappointed no matter who it is but I sure as hell hope we don't see two weeks of negative posting about Trestman if that who Emery decides on. He's as good a choice as any of the others and for our purposes maybe better than the rest.
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1 candidate that didn't get gig said this morn. that Trestman "will not command a great presence in front of the group. He better keep Rod."more information about Trestman that made me laugh
FWIW Trestman ran a 4-3 in the CFL according to their latest depth chart
and he has ran through a few defensive coordinators in a short amount of time.and last but no leastLong time college scout, now BTN correspondent says if the Bears hire Trestman, he will turn Jay from a talented but inconsistent QB to elite
Trestman will get a job in the NFL. Either as our HC or on another team. He will return.Per a source on another board - Trestman has resigned from the Alouettes.
I'm 100% sure that our next HC will be Marc Trestman. Nice Birthday present for him. Today he turns 57. Trestman runs a West Coast offense - what I would prefer. Now focus to get a OLine for Trestman and Cutler
A year ago I would have said no way. But then a year ago we hadn't hired a GM that couldn't bring in his own HC. None of us know whats was said or asked of any of these guys. I like both of them but I also like my plan.
I agree and am hoping it is Trestman
Arians is my number 1, Bevell would be my number two pick. I wouldn't care for the Tresman hire.
Last edited by JPosh2012; 01-15-2013 at 07:59 AM.
JPost, just wonder why you rank them this way. Would like to read an explanation
Im actually pulling for Marc Trestman. On day one when the news came out I figured he was a good coach and it was neat that a CFL coach was getting some recognition, but likely wouldnt be able to compete with McCoy, Arians or any other hot commodity OC.
Now that he has made it to the finals, I'd really be interested to see what he can do with Chicago
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