Grizzblue's Mock Offseason
Decided to throw this thread out here, very prelimanry but always fun to discuss!
Head Coach-Marc Trestman
I feel that this guy is going to land the job in the end. Multiple sources suggest he is the frontrunner and Emery may view him as a way to take Jay to an elite status.
**Restructure Peppers Contract
Jermon Bushrod OT
Jared Cook TE
Devry Henderson WR
Trade** The Chicago Bears trade pick number 20 to ATL in exchange for pick number 30 and 61.
-I put this on here as the most realistic trade down that I think we may look for. Atlanta got shredded by Cam Newton twice, by Seattle in the Divisonal Round and again By SF in the NFC championship. For this reason the Falcons look to bolster their defense with an athletic linebacker in Alec Olgetree. Olgetree can provide a boost on that side of the ball and is worth the two pick to them. Why I see this as the most likely trade down is for two reasons
-Falcons live in a divison full of high powered offenses, with the age of the offense (White,Gonzo) they look to answer the up and comming Panthers and Bucs as well as the Saints.
-Falcons have shown the willingness to jump up in the draft (see Julio Jones)
-I ran this trade thru a calculator, it comes out to close to equal value (the difference being the value of a high 7th round pick in favor of us, if they want the pick we throw in a 7th to make it almost exactly the same value)
Now on to the draft:
1.(30) Barret Jones, OC 'Bama
We draft Jones here with this pick, and he provides excellent boost to our interior of our offesive line. A four year starter at the nations top programs you cannot go wrong with this guy. His value will fall to end of the first after the fact that he will not participate in the NFL combine due to the inury to his foot. This guy with any luck barring injuies can be a decade long center that we saw in Olin Kreutz. Winner of multiple all SEC awards, as well as the Rimlington, and Outland as well as contributing to a Heisman winner, and a Heisman finalist he certianly has the resume to back up his play. Day one starter, no question.
2.(50) Kevin Minter, LB LSU
We go LB here and get a dandy of a player in Minter. Minter can come and compete for the SLB job right off the bat and is probably the next in line to line up as MLB for the Chicago Bears. Whenver Urlacher hangs it up, or gets injured again we have a guy ready to step in and compete with Roach and DiCicco for the job. Another product of the SEC this guy is as NFL ready as any LBs of his class and shows the potential to have a good career here in Chicago. An athletic freak he will be able to make an impact from day one, wherever Urlachers situation dictates that he lines up.
2.(61) Larry Warford, OG KU
A double dip into the interior of our line gives us another solid pick in the middle. This guy can run block with the best of him, his highlights being his athletisim and ability to get out in space and hit key blocks. This opens up the scren game, as well as give us more ability to move our gaurds in traps and sweeps, zones as well. A truely powerful man with good size he will compete from day one with Brown/Garza for the LG job and provide great depth and development in worst case scenario. His pass blocking will need to be demonstrated and be promising in camp to win the job, as we bring in youth to the position. Big, Stong, Nasty a perfect fit for an interior guy.
4. EJ Manuel, QB FSU
A suprising pick but one I feel we will make if he is still available. Keeping in mind that I project Trestman as our coach this pick is subject to change but this guy is a very underated prospect that can come in and provide quality insurance in case of disaster striking. Development player that will grow and learn under Cutler and Trestman could pay large dividens in the future. Manuel is a mobile guy and has a great ability to throw on the run. Should something happen to Jay its good to have a cheap "oh shit" plan in place. Trestman is regarded highly for his work with quarterbacks so it seems silly not to take one should he land the job. Manuel is a solid player, and will have plenty of time to grow.
5. Dion Sims, TE MSU
We look at another option of TE here. Good ball skills and size gives us another option in the future at TE. Can create mismatches as well, maybe a red zone package guy. Hopefully we can get a later round gem here and he will develop under the FA we will likely sign. Most likely pushes Adams down the depth chart by the end of TC and can work for limited plays later in the season. We have a void at TE and alough its not a top tier prospect, he will find a place in some way.
6. Arby Jones, DT UGA
Another plug down in the middle, can possibly crack some rotation...maybe in a goalline situation. We have had excellent ability to develop our defensive players so if the D coaches stay in tact the ceiling is high for this raw prospect. Provides more youth and another body to pulg in at our 2 or 3 tech should something happen to onne of our regulars. Again, you cant argue with someone who landed a starting spot on a national title contending team, and you know in the SEC you play future NFL talents almost every week.
7. B.W. Webb, CB William and Mary
Fast player who will look to earn a roster spot in ST. Possibly a gunner or return man with the departure of Devin Hester. This late in the draft your just hoping for a guy that can stay around. I like the small college idea for this late pick just because I'm sure hes underscouted and maybe we have a ST guy here. Nothing really more to add into this, likely swap this out for BPA
I hope you all enjoyed this, I'll most likely update the draft from time to time to keep up with the current events and news related to this. Feedback is always welcome!
Last edited by Grizzblue; 01-15-2013 at 04:46 PM.
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you would play Vollmer out of position or battle it out with Carimi & Webb on the left side?
Doubt we have enough Cap Space for those Free Agents and keeping all those players.
Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH
I gathered the "likely deals" via google searches and some calculator thing that projects salaries I found online and it worked out, If Peppers had his deal redone along with POSSIBLY Tillman it would work, it wont matter if were right up against the cap becasue BU will be gone soon if not this offseason.
As for your question on the Tackles, I wanted to slate in a true LT here but Vollmer will be the cheapest one.
Carimi is a LT by natural position, but this year was VERY disheartning
The way I saw it was we had a 3 man battle for 2 positions EARLY in camp. Once the new coaches set it, no more changing. With Carimi having a full season to recover I think he would have an outside shot at LT because after all thats where he belongs. In my line of thinking Bushrod wins the job and is put full time on LT and let Carimi and Webb fight it out over RT. Keep in mind however that Carimi may never become a LT like college if he does not move this year. Im trusting the new coaching staff to make that call. This year was extremely concerning for that happeneing. Now that you have me really thinking about it, ill admit maybe an additional cut would free up more money for Bushrod/Long. Thanks for the feedback. I will edit it now
Last edited by Grizzblue; 01-15-2013 at 04:47 PM.
Now I agree with it ;)
On the other side, I wouldn't have a problem with fixing the RT spot for sure. Vollmer is a great RT, will be the cheapest of Long/Clady/Albert/Bushrod/Vollmer and we would have a fair battle between Carimi, Scott and Webb at LT.
Right side would be fixed for sure and Cutler wouldn't have to worry about this side.
Webb/Carimi - Brown/Warford - Jones - Louis/Garza - Vollmer/Scott
That would be miles ahead of what we had the last years...
I really can't think much beyond our own FAs until I get a better handle of what Trestman and Emery have in the way of plans for the offense beyond the obvious.
Of the cuts I'd like to see Davis replaced with a more dependable pass catcher but Spaeth is still one of the better blocking TEs in the league and if he can learn to catch as consistently as he did on that one TD grab he may be the more useful of the two.
Izzy is still a capable playmaker and if we could afford to keep him I would. He had some sacks, some pressures, caused some turnovers and created some real havoc playing inside at DT as a situational pass rusher. Wootton has the LDE spot nailed down but Izzy is a still a very effective player.
I'd think seriously about trading Hester if I could but if there no market for fair value I'd keep him on at least until camp and preseason to see if Trestman can find a way to use him effectively. He still commands attention but he needs to be used a whole lot less on offense that he has been in the past.
Past that the obvious needs are on the OLine and at TE so that's what I look for them to be spending $$$ on in FA and only that. Then use the draft and UDFAs to start rebuilding less expensively where we need some youth.
I'm getting to that age where a lifetime warranty just doesn't mean as much to me anymore as an afternoon nap. Honey Badger Don't Care. Honey Badger Don't Give a Shit.
If Hester doesn't retire this offseason(Which I belive) and assume they wont cut or trade him then like all the other years I'm sure we'll hear about how good he looks in training camp, gonna look like a pro bowl WR!
Originally Posted by soulman
Either he will look good in training camp and look good in the season or he will look like shit in training camp and look like shit in the season. I don't belive that he is going to look good in training camp but shit in the season because now it will actually be a training camp and not one of Lovies slack partys.
Hester will not learn how to catch a ball and no team worries about Hester any more. Time is over for him. Better use this Cap Space in a different way. Same goes for Speath. I do like Speath, but we could save some money by cutting him. If you want a blocking TE, there are cheaper options
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Agree completely German, and we don't know what exactly a LT will cost, would hate to see us miss on him on a money difference we coulda hit with dumping Devin
Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH
OP i loveeeeee your draft but the only thing u would do different is let Melton walk, i think we need a pair of fat asses in the middle. The cover 2 era is over, we need some big boys int he middle to let Urlacher or who ever is MLB to roam free in the middle and back field
Fair enough, I'm just prioritizing LT in FA over all, I like Melton..but if it costs us a LT then he's Gota go
Originally Posted by VJ18