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    What Dave Toub's Loss Means

    Chicago Bears: What Dave Toub's Loss Means | Bleacher Report

    What Dave Toub's Loss Means

    Despite interviewing for the Bears' vacant head coaching position, longtime special teams coordinator Dave Toub is expected to join the Kansas City Chiefs and new head coach Andy Reid in the same role for the 2013 season.

    An original hire of Lovie Smith in 2004, Toub became one of the most well respected special teams coaches in the NFL, consistently ranking in the top-10 in special teams statistics in eight of his nine seasons in Chicago.
    Having Devin Hester as his return man certainly made his job easier, but not all of Hester's success can be contributed solely on his own abilities Toub's scheming and ability to find consistency in a special teams group that would typically change on a weekly basis highlighted his ability to get the best out of his players.
    Hester has regressed in recent seasons, but much of the blame can be on the organizations desire to turn him from All-Pro return man to wide receiver. Even when it wasn't Hester returning, both Johnny Knox and Daniel Manning made splashes as return men, combing to average 27 yards on kickoff's and two touchdowns during their time with Toub.
    Hester, Knox, Robbie Gould, Brendon Ayanbadejo, and Corey Graham all made the Pro Bowl under Toub and his group finished with the No. 1 overall ranking in both 2007 and 2008.
    His ability to get the best of players on the back end of the roster made him a candidate for some head coaching jobs, as he interviewed last season with the Miami Dolphins and also interviewed with general manager Phil Emery for the vacant Bears position.
    With Marc Trestman, Darrell Bevell, and Bruce Arians announced as finalists for the head coaching position (h/t Chicago Tribune) a return to the organization likely would of a been a difficult one for Toub, resulting in him joining Reid, who gave him his first job in the NFL in 2001.
    Former Chicago Bear and current radio analyst for WBBM-AM radio in Chicago, Jay Hilgenberg took to twitter early on Tuesday in regards to Toub, saying:

    @jayhilgenberg: Toub made solider field fans watch special teams instead of getting quick start to the restroom or #beer #changethegame #Bears

    Could a new special teams coordinator continue the trend of impressive special teams in Chicago? Probably. But few have displayed the consistency that Dave Toub has in the last nine seasons and whoever is hired as his replacement will have a tough time showing that he too can prevent the Soldier Field faithful from getting that quick start to the restroom.


    I'm sad to see Dave Toub leave, I wish him all the best. I'm thankful for the tremendous job he did here for the Bears. He was a damn good coach.

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    It means our ST will likely take a few steps back.

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    I hate to see him go. And I agree that our ST's may take a bit of a step back. But life will go on. Maybe we can cut back a bit though on special teams acquisitions. I did believe we went a bit overboard feeding talent to Toub that could have been better suited to quality young players on the depth chart that had the potential for being developed into future starters. It seemed to me that we had too many "special teams only" guys.
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    All the more reason to dump Hester IMO.

    Just like offenses or defenses all ST returns are set up completely different. To the naked eye it seems the same but little quirks and desiered seams are different with someone else at the helm. We all know that Hester isnt exactly the sharpest tool in the box, nor is he very good at adjusting to change (see: Hester's move to WR) I would be sad to see a legend and record holder go, but if his contract will be the difference between signing and missing on a LT then we find some stupid gm (angelo lmao) to try to get a late round pick from.

    But our ST will take a step back for sure...Wish old Toub the best thogh

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    I wish him well (except when his next team plays the Bears), his tutelage kept the Bears ST's on the positive side.








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    My bet:

    His leaving will mean that the Bears will score a ST TD on the Chiefs (or whomever) when we play them next.


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    Yeah I'm sad to see him go too but wish him well in KC and thank him for many years of outstanding coaching with the Bears. I wish him many more with KC too.

    The handwriting was on the wall. I think he would have been gone after 2013 anyway so this just accelerates it by one year. His return teams suffered this some via losses of Knox and Manning and Hester's decline but he still pulled together exceptional coverage team and he was a great strategist.

    It would have been nice to see him get the Bears HC job but for what Emery has in mind he's just not the right fit. Good Luck to you Dave Toub!
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    If Angelo was still in charge, I would be really worried because I think there would be a pretty big drop with whoever Angelo picked. Somehow I think we will get a good guy for that position. Filling Toubs shoes won't be easy, but I think we will get someone respectable if not downright good.

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    If Angelo was still in charge, I would be really worried because I think there would be a pretty big drop with whoever Angelo picked. Somehow I think we will get a good guy for that position. Filling Toubs shoes won't be easy, but I think we will get someone respectable if not downright good.
    Well he's been looking at STCs left and right under the guise of interviewing them for the HC spot which didn't fool Cleveland at all when he asked to interview Tabor.

    But I was like duh! Did anybody really think he was serious about a guy from that background when we already had one whose been a HC prospect already. Saying he was considering all of these guys from various backgrounds was just a ruse. He knew damn well who and what he was after right from the get go. All the rest was camouflage. LOL, I like the way he thinks.
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