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    Top 5 Bears with expiring contracts

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    With NFL free agency officially set to begin on March 12 (teams can begin to negotiate with agents of unrestricted free agents on March 9.), let's take a look at the top five Chicago Bearsplayers with expiring contracts.

    1. Henry Melton, DT: The question isn't whether the Bears want to re-sign Melton; it's at what price. The Bears negotiated with Melton's camp during the regular season, but the two sides were unable to strike a deal. When that happens, it's for one of two reasons, or sometimes both: money and years. With a combined 13 sacks over the past two seasons and a team-high 24 quarterback pressures in 2012, Melton probably deserves to be one of the higher paid defensive tackles in the NFL, but that range can cover anywhere from $5 million to $6 million a year or more. Finding the right dollar amount is obviously important, and so is the length of the contract. The Bears' preference likely would be to sign Melton to a five-year deal, while he will no doubt be looking to commit to just four years so he can potentially reach free agency again around the time he turns 30. The franchise tag is always an option, but that mechanism, while collectively bargained in the NFL CBA, can lead to awkward and potentially messy situations. If the Bears want Melton badly enough, the two sides should be able to work out a deal. But keep in mind the Bears have several needs to address this offseason, and only so much salary cap space, so they can't overpay to keep just one player.

    Which potential free agent should be the Bears' top priority to re-sign?

    • Henry Melton
    • Brian Urlacher
    • Nick Roach
    • Lance Louis
    • Israel Idonije




    2. Brian Urlacher, MLB: This one is complicated. On one hand, it would be nice to see Urlacher, a future Hall of Famer, retire on his own terms while wearing a Bears uniform, especially since he has given 13 years to the organization and to the city of Chicago. Despite missing the entire preseason with knee issues, Urlacher still had 88 tackles, two forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries and one pick-six interception before he hurt his hamstring late in the year. With a full offseason to recover, an argument can be made that Urlacher can still be a productive and important member of any defense. But what kind of contract is Urlacher looking for? He made a total of $8 million last year between his base salary ($7.5 million) and workout bonus ($500,000). Will Urlacher have to take a pay cut to keep playing? Or would the Bears or another NFL team sign him to a two-year, $16 million-plus deal? And does Urlacher even want to stick around after Lovie Smith got fired? It's tough to say. Bears general manager Phil Emery was non-committal when the subject of Urlacher was broached at his end of the year press conference, but I have to imagine the McCaskey family would love to see No. 54 retire a Bear. However this plays out, it figures to be one of the most difficult and controversial Bears player decisions of the offseason.

    3. Nick Roach, LB: Regardless of what happens with Urlacher, Roach has done enough to deserve another contract extension. Intelligent and athletic enough to play both strong side and middle linebacker, Roach finished last year sixth on the team in overall tackles (84) and tied for third in tackles-for-a-loss (five). The 27-year-old turned out to be one of the best deals on the roster last year with a base salary of just $1.715 million and a cap hit of $2.815 million. Obviously, Roach is in line for a bump in pay, but he has said repeatedly how happy he is in Chicago, his professional home for the past six years. With Urlacher and Lance Briggs both in their 30's, doesn't it make sense to bring back the youngest player in the linebacker trio with 59 career starts?

    4. Lance Louis, OG: Louis would probably have a new contract by now if he hadn't suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament against the Minnesota Vikings on Nov. 25. Before the injury, Louis was the best offensive lineman on the Bears roster, and a strong candidate receive an in-season extension. But injuries are a part of the game, so Louis now spends his offseason rehabbing his surgically repaired knee at Halas Hall. Players are usually forced to take less when they injure themselves in a contract year, no matter how well they were playing before getting hurt. But Louis is still young for an offensive lineman (he turns 28 in April), so the hope is he can fully recover in time to for the start of next season. Maybe Louis opts to sign a shorter deal now with an eye on cashing in down the road when he proves to teams he can still play at the high level he showed last year. Given the state of the Bears' offensive line, I'll argue the club is still much better off with Louis than without him heading into next year, even if the knee injury requires more time to heal than expected.

    5. Israel Idonije, DL: The Bears re-signed Idonije last offseason to a one-year deal with a total value of $2.5 million. I'd say that was money well spent. The 32-year-old Idonije ranked second on the Bears' with 7.5 sacks, despite losing some playing time to Corey Wootton at defensive end, while showcasing his versatility by moving inside to play defensive tackle in the nickel package. Idonije can still play. The issue becomes cost, and whether the Bears can find a younger and cheaper player to fill Idonije's role. Or perhaps the Bears spend big money in free agency to land a defensive end like Detroit's Cliff Avril. As it stands now, Julius Peppers($16.383 million cap number in 2013), former first-round pick Shea McClellin and Wootton figure to be on the roster at defensive end next season. Now it's up to the Bears to decide if they can upgrade from Idonije in the draft or free agency. If they can't, another one-year deal for Idonije doesn't sound like the worst idea.

    Other Bears' scheduled to be free agents include: CB Zack Bowman, QB Jason Campbell, QBJosh McCown, WR Johnny Knox, DT Nate Collins, OT Jonathan Scott, RB Kahlil Bell, DB D.J. Moore, OG Chris Spencer, CB Kelvin Hayden, LB Geno Hayes and DT Amobi Okoye.




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    i think you have to re-sign melton...there are maybe 3 more disruptive 4-3 DTs in football right now...and a disruptive 4-3 under tackle is what makes a cover 2 work...i'd franchise tag him if they can't get a deal done...i'd put roach next, he's a solid player and fits the system...

    i think the bears need to move on from urlacher, as much as i love him...louis i'd re-sign at the right price but wouldn't really care if he walked...i love idonije and if you can get him for $2.5 mil again, i'd do it...he can still play and his versatility is difficult to replace...

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    • Henry Melton
    • Israel Idonije those are the only ones I would keep from that menu.









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    LOL, I don't believe the comments above. Lance Louis was by far the best lineman on the team last year and playing at a Pro Bowl level when he got hurt and you guys don't care if we re-sign him?

    The worst unit on the team and he's head and shoulders above the rest and yet you'd let him walk? Wow. Despite his injury you re-sign Louis at least to a one year deal and see how his recovery works out. If he's still improving this season you extend the deal.

    We can use all of the defensive guy too. The stickiest issue may be Urlacher. What do you offer the guy? I don't see anyway we can match the kind of money he was making so what's fair without being insulting? He's already said he wants to play here and that since the Bears were very fair with him in the past that would come into play but exactly what does that mean in dollars and cents?

    Melton and Roach are no brainers with Melton being the far more expensive of the two. And I would bring Izzy back for another year too. Yeah he got $2.5 mil last year but he earned every damn penny of it and more. They should have docked Kellen Davis and given the extra to Izzy. 7.5 sacks and at least half from DT, forced fumbles, consistent pressure on the pass rush.

    The guy had a down year and 2011 and just like Tim Jennings he worked his ass off and came back big time this past year. You don't want to lose a playmaker like him if you can help it. If we need to find a spare $2 mil to pay him I can think of some places we can get it like Davis, Podlesh (we don't need a $2 mil per year punter) the difference between what Campbell got and what a guy like McCown gets, Garza if we can draft Barrett Jones, Weems.
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    Probably in that order unless Urlacher has shown improvement from the injuries. With cutting the fat and Cliff Stein in the office I don't see any problems. I also hope Pep restructures his contract as well.
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    If Urlacher is amenable to a salary commensurate with his projected longevity and potential to recover from his injuries, I think resigning him is a no-brainer. While his skills have diminished, his knowledge of the system and his leadership is irreplaceable and I'm not sure what the value of that is, but it's has to be worth something. And, for better or worse, he's still the face of the franchise (sorry Cutty) and that has value far beyond the number of tackles he could record.

    Fans still come to the game to see 54. I know it. You know it. Halas Hall knows it. And letting him go would be all ESPN needs to once again lambast the Bears as being a clueless organization, whether that's accurate or not.

    Melton needs to be resigned. That, too, is a no-brainer.

    I would love to see wholesale changes on the offensive line. Practicality says that's not going to happen; the talent to make that happen isn't available or absolute. Louis needs to be resigned.

    Not sure how many seasons Briggs has left. Probably more than Urlacher, but not many. Roach could be replaced, but signing a Free Agent comparable to what you already have makes no financial sense, so you go for an upgrade. Not sure if that would be worth the price, as Roach is very much a serviceable linebacker. Yep, resign.

    Idonije would be the only one of this group I'd feel comfortable letting go, and only because of the quality of depth available to the defensive line still under contract. Would hate to see him go, but the price tag and his age kind of force this, for me. He's in the same predicament as Urlacher, but there's so much more to Urlacher's presence on the team that it erases the comparisons.
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    I agree with Melton getting a 4 year deal. That way, if he only gets better, he will be in high demand in 4 years at age 30 and could get a blockbuster deal somewhere. If not, then he will at least be here until we can draft/replace him. Either way a 4 year deal is a win-win for both sides.

    Urlacher? Everyone wants him to retire a Bear, and never put on another team's jersey, but this will all be up to him and what he is willing to settle for. Whether thats a reduction in salary or number of years...its going to be up to him.

    Louis can go.

    Idonije is tricky...he is obviously a value to our DL, but i dont think the Bears are going to be able to afford him with how much money we have tied up with peppers and the rest of the defense.
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    Melton is a no brainer. Louis too. They will keep him shortterm to see what he does after the injury. Izzy will stay if the term is right. Roach? Not really need him. Nothing special.

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    I think Melton and Louis need to be the priority.

    From the list below you would think that there is some value in trying to get these players back. The ones that jump out to me are the fact that we have 3 DBs on that list. The reality is that with all these guys FA, we might struggle to sign them all (except Campbell and Spencer) and still have cap space for a LT.

    Other Bears' scheduled to be free agents include: CB
    Zack Bowman, QB Jason Campbell, QBJosh McCown, WR Johnny Knox, DT Nate Collins, OT Jonathan Scott, RB Kahlil Bell, DB D.J. Moore, OG Chris Spencer, CB Kelvin Hayden, LB Geno Hayes and DT Amobi Okoye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    LOL, I don't believe the comments above. Lance Louis was by far the best lineman on the team last year and playing at a Pro Bowl level when he got hurt and you guys don't care if we re-sign him?

    The worst unit on the team and he's head and shoulders above the rest and yet you'd let him walk? Wow. Despite his injury you re-sign Louis at least to a one year deal and see how his recovery works out. If he's still improving this season you extend the deal.

    We can use all of the defensive guy too. The stickiest issue may be Urlacher. What do you offer the guy? I don't see anyway we can match the kind of money he was making so what's fair without being insulting? He's already said he wants to play here and that since the Bears were very fair with him in the past that would come into play but exactly what does that mean in dollars and cents?

    Melton and Roach are no brainers with Melton being the far more expensive of the two. And I would bring Izzy back for another year too. Yeah he got $2.5 mil last year but he earned every damn penny of it and more. They should have docked Kellen Davis and given the extra to Izzy. 7.5 sacks and at least half from DT, forced fumbles, consistent pressure on the pass rush.

    The guy had a down year and 2011 and just like Tim Jennings he worked his ass off and came back big time this past year. You don't want to lose a playmaker like him if you can help it. If we need to find a spare $2 mil to pay him I can think of some places we can get it like Davis, Podlesh (we don't need a $2 mil per year punter) the difference between what Campbell got and what a guy like McCown gets, Garza if we can draft Barrett Jones, Weems.
    louis was never playing at a pro bowl level...he was okay, a pretty good pass blocker and a mediocre run blocker...add in an ACL injury late in the year and you have a guy who doesn't have much value to a team installing an entirely new offensive system...the bears should have their starting 5 set long before louis is even ready for contact...

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