PFF Free agent OG,OT,OC ratings

You will have to look@PFF to see if you agree with their rankings of these free agents...
I'm thinking OG and maybe OC in FA;(drafting a LT).

FA Guards(PFF)
years team rating snaps(2012)
Brandon Moore G 10 NYJ UFA 21.3 1086
Andy Levitre G 4 BUF UFA 17.3 1039
Ryan Lilja G* 9 KC UFA 14.5 1023
Louis Vasquez G 4 SD UFA 12.7 1057
Donald Thomas G 5 NE UFA 11.2 614
Kevin Boothe G 7 NYG UFA 8.2 1027

FA Tackles

Ryan Clady OT 5 DEN UFA +26.9 1141
Andre Smith OT 4 CIN UFA +26.9 1073
Gosder Cherilus OT 5 DET UFA +23.5 1229
Will Beatty OT 4 NYG UFA +22.4 967
Sebastian Vollmer OT 4 NE UFA +21.5 1111
Phil Loadholt OT 4 MIN UFA +15.9 1056
Branden Albert OT 5 KC UFA +13.8 722
Sam Baker OT 5 ATL UFA +11.6 1073
Austin Howard OT 3 NYJ RFA +8.5 1096
King Dunlap OT 5 PHI UFA +7.1 838


FA Centers

Brian De La Puente C 3 NO RFA +23.0 1134
Fernando Velasco C 3 TEN RFA +13.0 1025
Todd McClure C 14 ATL UFA +6.7 1059
Dan Koppen C 10 DEN UFA +5.0 908
Phil Costa C 3 DAL RFA +4.6 126
Evan Dietrich-Smith C 3 GB RFA +3.2 475

Well Long and Bushrod are missing from the OT list so it's incomplete and I think Bushrod may be the guy we go after hardest. Kromer coached him in NO and after signing Brees to a new deal they may be stretched cap wise but I don't really know that for sure. There are also more RT on that list than LT.

The problem with drafting a LT is that we're getting a guy who in all likelihood won't start in 2013 which means another year of Webb and unless Kromer thinks he can get him more focused on football than he is on the Dollar Menu at Mickey D's we need another LT playing there now. I think somewhere on that list we need to find our next LT.

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Originally Posted by soulman

Well Long and Bushrod are missing from the OT list so it's incomplete

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It's not incomplete, neither graded out in their top 10 FA OTs. As I've said before, the metrics behind Bushrod aren't at all encouraging and Long is coming off a poor showing BEFORE injury. I don't give Bushrod anywhere close to the $7M+ per that I've seen tossed around in speculation.

According to some things I've heard not a lot of teams in cap heaven this year, I think only Cleveland has a lot of money in FA to burn, so a lot of thought of high dollar FA's isn't likely, at least that's what I'm hoping for. I definately don't want have another Pace debacle w/getting Long or Bushrod and paying way to much money.

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Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox

It's not incomplete, neither graded out in their top 10 FA OTs. As I've said before, the metrics behind Bushrod aren't at all encouraging and Long is coming off a poor showing BEFORE injury. I don't give Bushrod anywhere close to the $7M+ per that I've seen tossed around in speculation.

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Well then what? Go after Smith or Beatty and is one year enough to base anything on? According to this then Albert grades out better than both Bushrod and Long? Long may be hurting but I just don't see him signing somewhere for less than half what he was making unless he does it as a one year deal. I can't see him agreeing to a long term contract, his last probably, for short money.

Bushrod is made $4.9 per year on his last two year deal and for that kind of money my guess is he'll stay put if NO will pony that much up again. Albert is gonna be looking for something in that $7 mil plus range too so who you gonna go after sox? Personally I think Long is out of the question unless it is a cheap ass one year deal. To me that could be another Orlando Pace fiasco if he's still hurting.

Chances of getting a starting LT with the #20 pick are non-existent so who would you try to sign. Bushrod or Albert have got to at least be a modest upgrade on what we have. Bushrod manages to do pretty well in one of the best offense in the NFL so he must be blocking someone at least some of the time.

Edit: I guess I should add that Clady is the pick of the litter and if Angelo had been smarter 5 years ago we'd have had him but I just don't see the Broncos ever letting him go. They'll franchise him is they can't sign him.

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Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox

It's not incomplete, neither graded out in their top 10 FA OTs. As I've said before, the metrics behind Bushrod aren't at all encouraging and Long is coming off a poor showing BEFORE injury. I don't give Bushrod anywhere close to the $7M+ per that I've seen tossed around in speculation.

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Never been a fan of Bushrod. I think his image is helped by amazing guards + All-Pro QB

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Originally Posted by soulman

Edit: I guess I should add that Clady is the pick of the litter and if Angelo had been smarter 5 years ago we'd have had him but I just don't see the Broncos ever letting him go. They'll franchise him is they can't sign him.

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I'm not sure why everyone gets on JA about Clady in the 2008 draft, Denver picked him (@ #12) before we had a chance (@ #14). I suppose we could have traded up, but short of that, the rub on JA w/ that first round pick was that we got an injured C.Will instead of:
#15-Brandon Albert
#17-Gosder Cherilus
#19-Jeff Otah
#21-Sam Baker
#26-Duane Brown**

If anything, I'd be upset that we didn't trade back 8-10 spots and taken Duane Brown and another lineman w/ the extra pick.

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Originally Posted by BearStuff

I'm not sure why everyone gets on JA about Clady in the 2008 draft, Denver picked him (@ #12) before we had a chance (@ #14). I suppose we could have traded up, but short of that, the rub on JA w/ that first round pick was that we got an injured C.Will instead of:
#15-Brandon Albert
#17-Gosder Cherilus
#19-Jeff Otah
#21-Sam Baker
#26-Duane Brown**

If anything, I'd be upset that we didn't trade back 8-10 spots and taken Duane Brown and another lineman w/ the extra pick.

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That's what I was referring to JD. The fact that as was typical in those days he wouldn't trade up. Long and Clady were hands down the best LT prospects and the Broncos were looking for one too. We lost out and in panic mode made a major reach talking CWill bad back and all. Even Albert was a better pick.

I suppose I should be happy that it was the Broncos who got Clady but I do not love them as I do my Bears.