Thread: OLine - stay patient?

chicken little talk. Why not just for the whole SF OLine?

reality says we won't bring in more than 2 starters - at best.

Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH

That's just wrong and ridiculous. Sounds like panic and chicken little.


we have a young group and if we only add 1 new starter, it could work out very well. We don't even know who sucked more, the OL or the coaches. Next year, we will have a OL coach that knows what he's doing and has proven it and a coach/play caller who prefers to keep his QB healthy and wants to move the ball forward. Jay won't get hit as much next year as we are used to it, even if 5 guys out of this forum play OL just because of the better coaching.

Then put me down as a "Chicken Little"...I'm fine with that.

For years now we've heard excuses as to why we don't need to go after top talent on the Chicago Bears offensive line. We've heard it all. But the common theme is that you can make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

Just reach into the toilet and pick any turd and make a great oline. I don't buy that thinking. When you reach into the toilet for talent, all you pull out is a stinky slimy turd. And we've had plenty of 'em over the years.

geez, and we wonder why our offense fails & the oline stinks.

Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH

chicken little talk. Why not just for the whole SF OLine?

reality says we won't bring in more than 2 starters - at best.

I don't think anyone is claiming that the sky is falling. I think we are all hopeful that Kromer can "fix" some of these guys, but there is only so much he can do in one season. As you indicated (and I agree with), there is a distinct likelyhood that the best we can hope for is two new starters, and yes, that would make a difference. Even one would help, but one or even two isn't going to fix it completely, at least not in my opinion. Honestly, I don't even think Lewis is as good as everyone wants to think. He is, at least, a real starter, when he's at his best, but coming of this injury may set him back.

I've said before, I don't have to have a Pro-Bowl O-line, but an adequate group that can keep our QB upright most of the time, make some occasional holes for our RB without him having to bounce it outside, and one that doesn't get blown back at the goal line. We haven't seen a line like that since 2006.

So, I'm "hopeful" that the O-line will get some help, but if the only help we get is a new O-Line guru, I don't see much hope of it getting a lot better. Maybe a little.

Originally Posted by Henry Burris

Wait, I thought Grubbs was drafted by the Ravens. If i'm wrong, this could change everything we know about football...

He did. I wasn't really referring to him being drafted by the Saints, but I admittedly didn't word my point very well. I also thought Grubbs had been in NO for two years and not one. Sorry if I was unclear.

Originally Posted by 4DaBERS

I don't think anyone is claiming that the sky is falling. I think we are all hopeful that Kromer can "fix" some of these guys, but there is only so much he can do in one season. As you indicated (and I agree with), there is a distinct likelyhood that the best we can hope for is two new starters, and yes, that would make a difference. Even one would help, but one or even two isn't going to fix it completely, at least not in my opinion. Honestly, I don't even think Lewis is as good as everyone wants to think. He is, at least, a real starter, when he's at his best, but coming of this injury may set him back.

I've said before, I don't have to have a Pro-Bowl O-line, but an adequate group that can keep our QB upright most of the time, make some occasional holes for our RB without him having to bounce it outside, and one that doesn't get blown back at the goal line. We haven't seen a line like that since 2006.

So, I'm "hopeful" that the O-line will get some help, but if the only help we get is a new O-Line guru, I don't see much hope of it getting a lot better. Maybe a little.

I am hopeful the oline will get a serious rebuild this year. I don't expect 5 new starters, but I do expect the Bears to finally, seriously attack the problem.

I've run out of patience with the perennial oline woes killing our seasons. I am a chicken little now. I don't care if folks think I'm a nut, and I probably am. I'm fine if others don't think as I do. But I have no more patience left, regarding the offensive line failures year-after-year-after-year. I want to see some serious resources put into the offensive line this season.

One of the things I truly enjoyed this post-season, was watching the great olines at work on top teams. They moved defenders around like rag dolls. They imposed their will on GREAT defenses when the games were on the line. I watched that like a starving man in the desert looking at a steak dinner with an ice cold draft beer.

I want that. I want it bad. A great oline in Chicago.

Originally Posted by Grizzblue

Great post, you nailed all my thoughts about the issue.

I haven't been on the boards for very long (one year this week) but judging from my friends conversations and what I saw last year on here it is a cycle of thought that is constantly repeated in regards to our oline

Week 1- Hopefully optimistic from our Pre season and camp talk up, **insert name here* is going to be a monster this year. The rest will improve an we got **inset toilet crap pickup*** and I think he will help out big time. Forte is going to run wild and we will be respectable up front

Bye week- our oline isn't that bad, they need time to gel and we moved **insert name(s)** to **insert position** so we will be fine

Week 11- ok, our oline isn't that good but maybe we can manage, cutler will do what he does and we will scrape by into the post season, hopefully they will be good enough to let Cutty win games

End of season- "OUR OLINE SUCKS" it costed us the playoffs we need guys now, so we all start researching FA and top tier draft picks

Combine- We get awed by highlight videos and combine numbers of skill players, we like the idea of a shiny new player to rack up catches, tackles, yards ect. We start to justify why the CRAP we have can improve and get us by so we can get our sexy new high picks and FAs to make "oooh, ahhhh" plays. We start saying well with the new (Martz/Tice) Trestman and kromer they can make this shit we have sparkle and were good.

Draft- we are all joyed with our new guy with his pretty highlight tapes and we imagine how awesome we will be with his new ability (Marshall, Jeffery, peppers, Shea) we have completely forgotten what a shitshow our line and offense in general was.

TC- smoke is blown up our asses about how our line is finally gelling and they look awesome, we believe the crap.

**and the cycle starts over**

It's time to realize that with a crap front our offense will fail and so will the team. We need QUALITY players in there so we can finally have a competent offense. We can talk all we want about the new coaches and system but fact of the matter is we need talent to make it work. Maybe Webb and others win REAL battles and show REAL improvement. If so, great, if not we have a guy Waiting in the ranks

I don't think I can take another year of 5 sacks a game and just laughing as we line up from the 2 yard line and loose a yard in 3 attempts.

Yes, the olinemen isn't a sexy pick, no eye popping highlight tapes (unless your into that like I am) but if we don't break this cycle we will NEVER be successful

Best post of the week ^^^^

Being objective- look at the wr position that a few years ago we didn't even have. We are used to Bmarsh now and are used to the plays he makes. Many don't seem to believe the o line IS still bad. Like the girl who dumped their abusive boyfriend for a douchebag-it's an upgrade but can do better-WAY better.

We need at the bare minimum 2 new guys on the line. 3 if we're lucky. Then we have to hope Louis and Carimi are both completely healed. That's not even trying to improve depth or vetting the depth we do possess.

The sky has already fallen. It's time to put it back.