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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzblue View Post
    It's been said numerous times that Johnson, nor any other tackle avail at 20 will start over Webb and we have bigger needs then a dev tackle
    But we dont know that. You see... theres always the future ... RICHARD DENT ... an eighth round draft pick.

    A team goes 7-1 ... then the downfall ... where did the team downfall at ?

    Was it the DEFENSE ... SPECIAL TEAMS ... IT WAS THE FUCKIN OFFENSIVE LINE.

    Try for just once not to blow smoke up my ass and say we need to improve on DEFENSE.

    I dont think and nor do you that has been the problem of the last DECADE.

    We all know what the problem has been ... we are all in this together as BEARS fans.

    Let us look in this together in wonderment ... A NEW GM ... fucking NEW HEAD COACH ... New assitent coaches ...

    in other words ... WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING DOWN !!

    Thats our CHICAGO BEARS ! You gotta be nuts to love this team ... in fact theres a whole board dedicated to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiejokeman View Post
    But we dont know that. You see... theres always the future ... RICHARD DENT ... an eighth round draft pick.

    A team goes 7-1 ... then the downfall ... where did the team downfall at ?

    Was it the DEFENSE ... SPECIAL TEAMS ... IT WAS THE FUCKIN OFFENSIVE LINE.

    Try for just once not to blow smoke up my ass and say we need to improve on DEFENSE.

    I dont think and nor do you that has been the problem of the last DECADE.

    We all know what the problem has been ... we are all in this together as BEARS fans.

    Let us look in this together in wonderment ... A NEW GM ... fucking NEW HEAD COACH ... New assitent coaches ...

    in other words ... WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING DOWN !!

    Thats our CHICAGO BEARS ! You gotta be nuts to love this team ... in fact theres a whole board dedicated to it.
    I'm with you Jackie in regards to the oline.

    And if we could get him later I'd love it, but reality says we need a lg because we have none and then a center Before we look to the tackle positions

    We have nothing on the inside, a crappy something is better than noting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzblue View Post
    I'm with you Jackie in regards to the oline.

    And if we could get him later I'd love it, but reality says we need a lg because we have none and then a center Before we look to the tackle positions

    We have nothing on the inside, a crappy something is better than noting
    GrizzB

    There are X amount of posters in this forum, none of them agree with you or me or anybody else.

    On the other hand everyone agrees about everything which is about nothing.

    If we can get past that point ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiejokeman View Post
    GrizzB

    There are X amount of posters in this forum, none of them agree with you or me or anybody else.

    On the other hand everyone agrees about everything which is about nothing.

    If we can get past that point ...
    Well we all (or most) agree we need some serious help up front, or just more options that is

    FA is going to answer a ton of ?s

    Either alot of us will look real smart or utterly clueless lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    some has to do with my bias towards the german player ;)

    (Can't blame you for that can I?)

    When a Top5 RT makes it to Free Agency, you should think about it. With Vollmer, we know what we get. With Carimi, we hope we get a starting RT. You see the difference. I'm not saying get rid of Carimi. All I'm saying is bring in the best players possible. Hell, I'd even try Vollmer or Carimi as LT if Webb can't improve again.
    While I believe Vollmer actually may have some pro experience at LT in Carimi's case even though he played LT in college he still hasn't mastered pass blocking at RT yet and he wouldn't beat Webb out at LT now and maybe never.

    At the bottom of it all right now is that without some significant restructuring of some contracts we don't have the cap space to pursue a guy like Vollmer or any other top tier OLineman anyway and if we did we should be looking specifically for those who are starters on the left side where our biggest needs are.

    Regardless of his talents I just don't believe Vollmer can help us much where we need the help most and have money or picks to spend only on that.
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    Hey, the Jets just cut loose Jason Smith for CAP relief, lets grab him.

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    For all the talk we give about Webb, at least we didn't waste the second overall on a bust like Smith. That hurts.
    Yep you're right. We wasted ours on a first rounder the year before but at least #14 isn't #2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiejokeman View Post
    But we dont know that. You see... theres always the future ... RICHARD DENT ... an eighth round draft pick.

    A team goes 7-1 ... then the downfall ... where did the team downfall at ?

    Was it the DEFENSE ... SPECIAL TEAMS ... IT WAS THE FUCKIN OFFENSIVE LINE.

    Try for just once not to blow smoke up my ass and say we need to improve on DEFENSE.

    I dont think and nor do you that has been the problem of the last DECADE.

    We all know what the problem has been ... we are all in this together as BEARS fans.

    Let us look in this together in wonderment ... A NEW GM ... fucking NEW HEAD COACH ... New assitent coaches ...

    in other words ... WE DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING DOWN !!

    Thats our CHICAGO BEARS ! You gotta be nuts to love this team ... in fact theres a whole board dedicated to it.
    Who said anything about improving the defense being a priority? Grizz simply said that we don't need a developmental LT more than we need a 2013 starter and I believe that's correct. As good as he may become Lane Johnson may not be ready to start this year although if a team like AZ drafts him that may be what ends up happening and for him that could be bad.

    Let's look at what happened with Carimi this year being rushed back to start in September when he wasn't in football shape yet. His pass blocking suffered and along with it his confidence. For what ever reason sometime a guy just isn't quite ready for prime time and needs a year of seasoning. NE was able to do that with Solder and from now on they'll most likely have a very good LT.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't consider Johnson if he's on the board (doubtful) but if we do it should be more with an eye towards him starting in 2014 as opposed to 2013. That's why I favor guys like Cooper and Warmack who can start in 2013 and become difference makers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Who said anything about improving the defense being a priority? Grizz simply said that we don't need a developmental LT more than we need a 2013 starter and I believe that's correct. As good as he may become Lane Johnson may not be ready to start this year although if a team like AZ drafts him that may be what ends up happening and for him that could be bad.

    Let's look at what happened with Carimi this year being rushed back to start in September when he wasn't in football shape yet. His pass blocking suffered and along with it his confidence. For what ever reason sometime a guy just isn't quite ready for prime time and needs a year of seasoning. NE was able to do that with Solder and from now on they'll most likely have a very good LT.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't consider Johnson if he's on the board (doubtful) but if we do it should be more with an eye towards him starting in 2014 as opposed to 2013. That's why I favor guys like Cooper and Warmack who can start in 2013 and become difference makers.
    Exactly^

    Jackie, I am then last person to tell you we need to spend top picks on defense.

    With that said, we have a decent LT with Webb (not good but doing ok)

    In comparison, we have NO lg on the roster who isn't a laughing stock

    I would love a dev LT with a longshot to start, but that wouldn't be a top pick.

    Cooper would be too good good to pass

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    #BearsGM Phil Emery said he and his staff see Gabe Carimi as having an upside at guard and/or tackle.
    https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/304622858213158912

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    I don't care what non-answer answer Emery said (to be intentionally vague). If Carimi is starting at G for us next year, then something has gone HORRIBLY WRONG. Make that "Several things have gone horribly wrong" actually.

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