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    Phil Emery's Bears won't put as much weight on Combine anymore.

    This was a classic JA draft. Jerry Angelo passed up future Hall of Fame player, Troy Palamalu, for Michael Haynes. That same 1st round (we had two first round picks that year), we drafted the sex canon (Rex Grossman) instead of grabbing a guy like shutdown CB Nnamdi Asomugha. There were others in that first round we could have had, but didn't pull the trigger.

    We blew so many first round draft picks under JA, it makes me sick to think about. This is why I'm fanatical about not blowing our picks now. Make 'em count. Don't roll the dice on a first rounder, but rather do your homework and if any red flags come up on a player, think long and hard before you gamble that 1st round pick.

    Jerry was often wanting to look like a genius by finding a guy that others missed. But most of these times he missed & blew our #1 draft picks on losers. I would rather have that solid guy who can start for you & contribute day-1, instead of swinging for the fence and striking out. Busts kill you if you have too many first rounders bust on you.

    Later in the draft if you want to gamble, that's not as critical. But 1st round picks need to be good ones.

    p.s. I know we got Tillman and Briggs in rounds 2 and 3. JA did a decent job in the middle rounds. It was the first rounds that he killed us.


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    The NFL Combine is underway in Indianapolis, and as terms like "Underwear Olympics" and "Cattle Herd" are thrown around, let's not forget there is something to be learned from these basic drills.

    The Combine has been used in different ways by all the general managers around the league for years, and the Chicago Bears' last GM Jerry Angelo was a big fan; to a fault.

    Angelo went overboard with the numbers churned out at the Combine -- things like the standing broad jump, the shuttle run and an IQ test are thrown in with the basic bench press and 40-yard dash -- and went on record as passing on guys he once liked because of poor Combine showings. (One of those was defensive lineman Terrell Suggs, who has gone on to a pretty decent career in Baltimore.)

    As for the current Bear GM, Phil Emery, it would appear early on that he gets it. That is: He gets the idea that the Combine is a nice tool to have when evaluating players for the draft, but it must fit in with all the other pieces before being used effectively.

    "All those things factor in," Emery recently said, "in terms of creating seperation between players."

    That's it. Not creating a new spot for him on your draft board, or eliminating him from your list. Just using the extra added info when needed. Hopefully Emery will prove he has that skill. Angelo proved he did NOT, and his days as an NFL GM are over.

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    Yep, and that more then anything is what scared me when Emery said he was glad the teams secret was kept about Shea. It brought back nightmares of JA and him thinking he was the smartest guy in the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post

    We blew so many first round draft picks under JA, it makes me sick to think about. This is why I'm fanatical about not blowing our picks now. Make 'em count. Don't roll the dice on a first rounder, but rather do your homework and if any red flags come up on a player, think long and hard before you gamble that 1st round pick.
    Yes, JA blew alot of 1st round picks, but unfortunately, it still is a gamble.

    I dont fault him for getting Rex, because we NEEDED a QB. We already had a pretty solid Defense before hand, so what would be the point in getting Polamalu when we had Mike Brown? Yes, we passed on Asomugah, but we drafted P-nut 4 picks later. Sure, its easy after the fact to see the other players we pass up, but as they say, hindsight is 20/20. He got Rex because we needed a QB, and Rex was the best available (other teams picked Palmer, Leftwich, and Boller ahead of him so its not as if it was a strong year for QBs to begin with).

    Also, we have to keep in mind that since 2006, there have been 3 of the 7 years, we didnt even HAVE 1st round picks, so thats another reason that we dismiss the few that we did have as failures on JA's part. And then there are times where we picked decent 1st rounders, but made dumb moves and got rid of em (Greg Olsen), or were simply unable to get them to produce, but they go on and produced elsewhere (Benson).
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    I'm glad the Bears finally have a GM that thinks about the combine the same way I do.


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    I'm not gonna go off, and I especially hate sounding like I'm defending JA, but every time I hear about how this guy was picked and that guy was missed, I have to jump on and remind folks that 31 other teams missed those same players.

    The Hindsight Draft thing... ah, hell. Forget it.
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    The Combine seperates guys you have about rated the same way. Example, if we have Te'o and Minter rated as good as the other, the combine may tell us who we should look at. The interviews with the players and game tape is much more important. Thank god Emery sees it that way.

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    I'm much more optimistic about this year's draft with Emery and Trestman at the helm compared to drafts in the past when JA and Lovie was running the show because Emery and Trestman has a better understanding on what we need at what position and also seeing that Emery is a scout at heart and willl know who to get concerning team needs etc....

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