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^ This. Webb got better. Garza got worse. Garza is done and needs replacing.Originally Posted by JJ-30
No way. One or both will show that they're not starter material.
Maybe 1 of the 2 will look like solid starters this season.
With new coaching, blocking schemes etc, they both will be solid.
Other (tell us what you think)
^ This. Webb got better. Garza got worse. Garza is done and needs replacing.
Yea this^^
Our lg and c will be a much bigger issue than either tackle
I was listening to the SCORE and AM 1000 on the way home from work yesterday. The SCORE sources
said that Kromer/Trestman like Webb a whole lot more thn the fans do. I think he is a near lock to
be the starting LT this coming season. They also liked what Louis did last year, though he is coming off the ACL.
After that, its anyoes guess. There was no Carimi endorsement whatsoever and no mention of Garza at all.
AM 1000 was focused more on Melton. Jurkovic thinks he's completely overrated and wouldnt sign him.
He mentioned signing Randy Starks instead, which I wouldnt mind if they went in another direction.
Riczaj01 say BEAR DOWN!
Part of that like might be the inability to replace him at 20, or the cap limitations of getting a legit LT via FA. Sadly if you cannot afford to replace him in FA or find a guy that can outplay him via draft you have to role w/him.
Again, and it's unfortunate, but Carimi is a big questionmark b/c of his injuries, you just don't know what you have there. Brown I thought showed promise at G, Louis looked solid at G, carimi proved he can be a backup G at minimum.
There is good reason Garza hasn't been mentioned, he's not worth mentioning. He's Kreutz in his final year bad; and he's no Kreutz.
I've been preparing for Melton leaving once I heard he was anking so high in FA, he's just way to expensive. While a Forte like FT could be used, Forte still got market value for a RB, and I'm not sure the Bears could afford to give market value for Melton.
Last edited by Riczaj01; 02-26-2013 at 01:18 PM.
They did mention that the Bears like Brown as well.
It just may be wiser to get 2 or 3 starters instead of just Melton.
How they would allocate that money remains to be seen.
If he is gone then it would seem likely that they start adding some bigger DT's
sooner rather than later.
Since we are DT's,
Bears likely to tender DT Collins
By Brad Biggs, Tribune reporter 1:38 p.m. CST, February 26, 2013
Nothing is definite but indications are the Chicago Bears will tender an offer to defensive tackle Nate Collins, who is a restricted free agent.
The Bears have until March 12 – the start of the new league year – to secure Collins with a tender that would be worth $1.33 million. Tenders for RFA’s are not guaranteed.
Collins worked his way into the rotation last season and played well at times. He was only active for nine games but got 241 snaps on defense, meaning he was on the field 22.9 percent of the time. That meant he was on the field for nearly 27 plays per game in the nine games.
Collins, 25, was credited with 13 tackles, three quarterback pressures and one tackle for loss. Of the nine defensive linemen that finished the season on the roster, three are scheduled to be unrestricted free agents – end/tackle Israel Idonije and tackles Henry Melton and Amobi Okoye.
Okoye, the former first-round pick of the Houston Texans, had two stints on the roster and also appeared in nine games, getting 229 snaps. He made 11 tackles with one sack, two quarterback pressures and one tackle for loss.
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Last edited by Riczaj01; 02-26-2013 at 01:47 PM.
you want Carimi or another rookie at LG, and right next to him a rookie at center? I don't like that idea whatsoever.
Louis might not even be ready to play at RG by the beginning of the season.
WNMOL, I'm not a fan of it, but many here are talking about a LG and C w/our first two picks, I agree that makes a very young interior OL that will need help from a guy(Webb) who also needs help.
I would perfer Brown or Carimi at LG, but I was more going w/what most here seem to think will happen. I do think Louis will be ready to play, no indications are that he won't.
There's no really clean way to revamp the oline when we're going to need some new rookies put into the mix. You don't want too many rookies in the starting lineup. A first round OL pick at guard will start. A 4th round (or later round) rookie won't start. With our cap situation, we probably won't see a FA interior lineman this year. So that limits what we can do.
I'm thinking we will see Webb at LT, and Carimi at RT. Carimi will be better due to the fact he will be fully healthy, and he did get a season of experience under his belt.
The interior of the line could have our drafted 1st round guard at LG, and Louis back at RG if he's healthy.
I'm thinking our center will be either Garza or E.Will, whomever is better. I'm hoping we draft a center, who will be coached up to be our eventual starter at center. If Louis isn't starter material health-wise at the beginning of the season (a distinct possibility.....we don't want a repeat of the Carimi fiasco this year with Louis' injury) then I'm not sure who will be there.
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Even with 2 rookies its better than we have now assuming its cooper/Warmack at lg.
As far as center goes jones would be an upgrade baring his injury haunting him, Frederick and that kid from Cal would be equal or better come week 6
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