Rotoworld says we will get Branden Albert

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Originally Posted by WindyCity

Report: Ravens don’t expect to sign McKinnie before free agency | ProFootballTalk

Bryant McKinnie would be a cheap, veteran OT upgrade that we would not have to tie ourselves too for a bunch of seasons.

He was fantastic in the playoff run for the Ravens.

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He'd be fine as long as he's not an "Orlando Pace" type situation. That would be my only concern (does he have quality play left in the tank).

Rotoworld, LOL. Great stuff if you're the GM of a FF league but in the real world of the NFL there not quite so on top of things. They had to figure out somewhere to predict he'll go so why not to the team whose GM scouted him right? Right now I keep asking myself just how much Phil Emery and the coaching staff really believes we're that bad off at OT.

IF we could afford Albert of anyone else he might have been a guy to look at but we'd need to clear some serious cap space to get in the hunt. And IF he has any kind of a back issue why would we even want to spend top dollar to sign him. Somebody should let 'em know JA isn't GM in Chicago anymore.

IF Emery is successful re-signing Jonathan Scott I'm gonna say that he'll stick with Webb, Carimi, and Scott as his front line OTs and then try to draft a LT prospect to put in the mix with RT Corey Brandon and OT/OG guy James Brown. Scott is probably his best an least expensive option for a swing OT right now. Emery was hired to build through the draft because it isn't practical to do it another way.

Let's face it guys. Spending big $$$ buying lineman has never worked long term for this team or any other. We need to draft better prospects and work harder on developing them and the guys we have now. There wasn't much sense in hiring Kromer as an OC along with his rep as an OLine coach if we're gonna go out and spend cap $$$ we don't really have on guys who have hit their peak already.

As far as I'm concerned guys like Long, Albert and Bushrod have no upside at all and we're probably looking at deals that would average between $7-$10 mil year with some serious guarantees. It's just not worth it. A guy like Beatty who's still young and could get much better might be worth pursuing but I doubt NY let's him get away. They released some vets to clear cap space and I'd bet that was done with an eye toward making sure they could make him a good offer.

I'd love to make our problems at OT go away but I'm just not sure throwing a lot of money at it is gonna help. Not when it's gonna cost $5 or $6 mil more for one guy than both guys you have now. I don't see where that $$$ is gonna come from right now.

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Originally Posted by WindyCity

Report: Ravens don’t expect to sign McKinnie before free agency | ProFootballTalk

Bryant McKinnie would be a cheap, veteran OT upgrade that we would not have to tie ourselves too for a bunch of seasons.

He was fantastic in the playoff run for the Ravens.

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Can we get him a walker too? Hes flippin 33 already.

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Originally Posted by soulman

Rotoworld, LOL. Great stuff if you're the GM of a FF league but in the real world of the NFL there not quite so on top of things. They had to figure out somewhere to predict he'll go so why not to the team whose GM scouted him right? Right now I keep asking myself just how much Phil Emery and the coaching staff really believes we're that bad off at OT.

IF we could afford Albert of anyone else he might have been a guy to look at but we'd need to clear some serious cap space to get in the hunt. And IF he has any kind of a back issue why would we even want to spend top dollar to sign him. Somebody should let 'em know JA isn't GM in Chicago anymore.

IF Emery is successful re-signing Jonathan Scott I'm gonna say that he'll stick with Webb, Carimi, and Scott as his front line OTs and then try to draft a LT prospect to put in the mix with RT Corey Brandon and OT/OG guy James Brown. Scott is probably his best an least expensive option for a swing OT right now. Emery was hired to build through the draft because it isn't practical to do it another way.

Let's face it guys. Spending big $$$ buying lineman has never worked long term for this team or any other. We need to draft better prospects and work harder on developing them and the guys we have now. There wasn't much sense in hiring Kromer as an OC along with his rep as an OLine coach if we're gonna go out and spend cap $$$ we don't really have on guys who have hit their peak already.

As far as I'm concerned guys like Long, Albert and Bushrod have no upside at all and we're probably looking at deals that would average between $7-$10 mil year with some serious guarantees. It's just not worth it. A guy like Beatty who's still young and could get much better might be worth pursuing but I doubt NY let's him get away. They released some vets to clear cap space and I'd bet that was done with an eye toward making sure they could make him a good offer.

I'd love to make our problems at OT go away but I'm just not sure throwing a lot of money at it is gonna help. Not when it's gonna cost $5 or $6 mil more for one guy than both guys you have now. I don't see where that $$$ is gonna come from right now.

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Your right about it being all about cost. We can not saddle ourselves with a number of big long term contracts.

I would set a number I am willing to pay each free agent and that has to be a hard number based on our cap situation. Offer Bushrod 5 million a season and if he says NO we move on and ask the next guy.

Especially at OT where we need competent players.

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Originally Posted by WindyCity

Your right about it being all about cost. We can not saddle ourselves with a number of big long term contracts.

I would set a number I am willing to pay each free agent and that has to be a hard number based on our cap situation. Offer Bushrod 5 million a season and if he says NO we move on and ask the next guy.

Especially at OT where we need competent players.

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It's a nice plan Windy but NOLA already paid him that much on his last two year deal and he says he's looking for a longer term deal with some security. I guess we don't know exactly what that means but if I had to guess it would be for more than two years and the guarantees alone would be more than the entire amount of his last deal which was just shy of $10 mil. He's also 3 years older than Webb and has little or no upside. I just don't think he's worth the pursuit.

The only who really is would be Beatty. He's 25 and coming off his rookie contract. He's got upside and maybe you'd get him on a deal that averages $5 mil per but do you really think NY will let him go if that's all it will take to keep him? The bottom line is that I believe the other guys are looking for deals that will average $7-$10 mil per year over four to five years. Even Long is gonna be after another big contract despite the slippage in his play.

It would be nice to get a FA young enough and cheap enough to know that he'd be your guy for the next 5 years or more and you'd give him that kind of deal but other than Beatty I don't see a likely prospect. Maybe you could throw than number at Albert but I think he'll get better offers.

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Originally Posted by soulman

It's a nice plan Windy but NOLA already paid him that much on his last two year deal and he says he's looking for a longer term deal with some security. I guess we don't know exactly what that means but if I had to guess it would be for more than two years and the guarantees alone would be more than the entire amount of his last deal which was just shy of $10 mil. He's also 3 years older than Webb and has little or no upside. I just don't think he's worth the pursuit.

The only who really is would be Beatty. He's 25 and coming off his rookie contract. He's got upside and maybe you'd get him on a deal that averages $5 mil per but do you really think NY will let him go if that's all it will take to keep him? The bottom line is that I believe the other guys are looking for deals that will average $7-$10 mil per year over four to five years. Even Long is gonna be after another big contract despite the slippage in his play.

It would be nice to get a FA young enough and cheap enough to know that he'd be your guy for the next 5 years or more and you'd give him that kind of deal but other than Beatty I don't see a likely prospect. Maybe you could throw than number at Albert but I think he'll get better offers.

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If the plan is to draft an OT I think we are going to need to be creative as Joeckel, Fisher and Johnson should all be gone.

A guy like Terron Armstead added to our current group of OTs would be interesting as long as we build the middle of the line with some significant upgrades, not big money guys, but big time upgrades.

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Originally Posted by soulman

It's a nice plan Windy but NOLA already paid him that much on his last two year deal and he says he's looking for a longer term deal with some security. I guess we don't know exactly what that means but if I had to guess it would be for more than two years and the guarantees alone would be more than the entire amount of his last deal which was just shy of $10 mil. He's also 3 years older than Webb and has little or no upside. I just don't think he's worth the pursuit.

The only who really is would be Beatty. He's 25 and coming off his rookie contract. He's got upside and maybe you'd get him on a deal that averages $5 mil per but do you really think NY will let him go if that's all it will take to keep him? The bottom line is that I believe the other guys are looking for deals that will average $7-$10 mil per year over four to five years. Even Long is gonna be after another big contract despite the slippage in his play.

It would be nice to get a FA young enough and cheap enough to know that he'd be your guy for the next 5 years or more and you'd give him that kind of deal but other than Beatty I don't see a likely prospect. Maybe you could throw than number at Albert but I think he'll get better offers.

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Forget Beatty, he gone!

The Giants’ top priority this offseason was stabilizing their offensive line, and there’s no better way to do that than locking up their anchor.

That’s what the Giants did on Wednesday, when they re-signed left tackle Will Beatty, a player Giants GM Jerry Reese called “one of the ascending left tackles in the NFL.” Beatty got a five-year deal that could be worth as much as $38.75 million, according to an NFL source familiar with the contract. It included a signing bonus of $12.5 million and $19 million guarantees.

I think I would take a chance on Jason Smith. Guy is a bust but he will come cheap and could win a spot if he keeps his head upright. We don't have much money to spend. I would go into the season with Webb & Carimi/Scott. Smith gives depth and maybe some luck a guy that finally puts it together

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Originally Posted by Coolhandluke

Forget Beatty, he gone!

The Giants’ top priority this offseason was stabilizing their offensive line, and there’s no better way to do that than locking up their anchor.

That’s what the Giants did on Wednesday, when they re-signed left tackle Will Beatty, a player Giants GM Jerry Reese called “one of the ascending left tackles in the NFL.” Beatty got a five-year deal that could be worth as much as $38.75 million, according to an NFL source familiar with the contract. It included a signing bonus of $12.5 million and $19 million guarantees.

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Yep buy it hadn't been announced yet when I posted that. I didn't figure NY would ever let him sniff FA any way. What he got is about what we'll need to spend on Melton so any real hope of a FA LT is pretty much out of the question.

Our biggest FA signing will be him.