Thread: Brad Biggs: "More and more folks are matching #Bears with TE Tyler Eifert"

Originally Posted by WindyCity

Crippling need at TE, best TE in the draft, I do not think it is a huge stretch to think that the Bears would pick Eifert if they sign some free agent OLmen.

We need to draft two OLineman

Originally Posted by 4DaBERS

from the article:

"What would be interesting is if offensive linemen like North Carolina G Jonathan Cooper and Alabama RT D.J. Fluker are on the board when the Bears go on the clock. "

That would be interesting, and (after soul convinced me) I would do a face palm if we passed on Cooper, but I would take Eifert over Fluker all day.

You would hear me scream from my house in disgust.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

I agree with Ric. If all the marquee OLs are off the board by 20 (I certainly hope not but IF), I don't think you draft an over-rated Teo, an inexpensive Eifert, or an irresponsible Ogletree. I think you you draft an OL you can get later either. I would hope Emery could find a trading-down partner in this scenario (San Fran?).

I think you need to trade down and hope that someone will do it. I don't know if SF will even have their first IF they get Revis.

Eifert would be a solid pick at 20.

Originally Posted by nwfisch

Eifert would be a solid pick at 20.

I respectfully disagree. He's an "overdraft" at 20 IMHO considering that FA TEs are generally not very expensive. So unless the guy is an utter beast (a reach to believe that at this point) I look to trade down if all the top tier OLs are gone at 20.

Originally Posted by Punished

I don't invest much into Mocks myself... NFL.com has 10 guys making mocks and they are all different with guys like Fluker going before, after, and being drafted by the Bears. WF.com has Fluker going to Indy, a few picks after the Bears, and the Bears picking a WR.

If we go off of nfl.com's grades of O-linemen LINK they have 8 O-linemen rated at 85 or above, with 85 being considered...

Immediate Starter - "An impact player with the ability/intangibles to become a Pro Bowl player. Expect to start immediately except in a unique situation (i.e. behind a veteran starter)."

...i realize that nfl.com isn't right 100% of the time but IF they are, then there will be plenty of O-linemen, OR there will be a lot of talent still left on the board.

My original post was with the mind set that there would be at least one quality O-lineman left at 20. If 8 o-linemen go before 20 then of course i wouldn't take an o-lineman lol

I don't invest to much in anything at this point, ecspeically combine numbers. I have no doubt that you can find 8 OL that can be starters in the NFL, but that doesn't mean you reach for the 6-7-8 best OL when you can get the 1st-5th best at another need position.

Traditionally you can find interior OL starter quality into the 3rd-5th round easily. That's where those 4-8 guys are going to find themselves. According to people on this site that really watch and study OL play, the difference between "impact" day one guys and the rest is huge, and it seperates them as being 1st round ready. And the last guy worth looking at w/20 is Fluker.

My thing is, and always will be take your needs, in this case for the bears, OL, MLB, TE, DB then set up your draft board w/those at the head of a BPA list and set them up. Now if Emery/Trestman believe that the 6-8best OL is still better for the team then the 3rd MLB, or TE or DB, then more power to them; but I doubt talent wise, and even team fit wise that would ever be the case. Your top ten MLB's in the NFL almost never come from outside the 1st round. Your top ten NFL G's and C's almost never come out of the first. That stat speaks to how teams view positions and their importance in the draft. G's, and more specificially C's do not get drafted in the 1st very often, only the truly elite prospects do.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

I respectfully disagree. He's an "overdraft" at 20 IMHO considering that FA TEs are generally not very expensive. So unless the guy is an utter beast (a reach to believe that at this point) I look to trade down if all the top tier OLs are gone at 20.

Even if he is a reach, we still really need 2 TE's w/talent. Speath has none, and the other guys we have are either not worth starting or are H-Backs not TE's. So FA TE or not, Eifert still fills a need. If we grabbed a top FA TE, I wouldn't be as happy w/Eifert but I would understand.

Riczaj I agree that normally you would approach the draft in that manner. Everything depends highly on FA. If they don't land an OL in FA but get a serviceable Te, what would you do regarding the draft and that 6-7-8 best OL then??

Originally Posted by Punished

Riczaj I agree that normally you would approach the draft in that manner. Everything depends highly on FA. If they don't land an OL in FA but get a serviceable Te, what would you do regarding the draft and that 6-7-8 best OL then??

I'd move back into the 1st, and pick up a 2nd or a couple 3rds to help fill that interior OL w/starter quality OL AND other needs. Right now the Bears needs to picks is to high. I'd rather the team get Fluker or Cooper, but if that doesn't happen, and the team hasn't addressed OL in FA then just move back grab one of those guys and then in the 2nd and w/the extra picks go after bpa again(probably OL/MLB). then just go bpa the rest of the way.