Brad Biggs: "More and more folks are matching #Bears with TE Tyler Eifert"

**Punished** · 03-03-2013, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

I'd move back into the 1st, and pick up a 2nd or a couple 3rds to help fill that interior OL w/starter quality OL AND other needs. Right now the Bears needs to picks is to high. I'd rather the team get Fluker or Cooper, but if that doesn't happen, and the team hasn't addressed OL in FA then just move back grab one of those guys and then in the 2nd and w/the extra picks go after bpa again(probably OL/MLB). then just go bpa the rest of the way.

What are you using as trade value? Can't believe someone is just going to give a 2nd or a couple 3rd's to swap in the 1st.

I would imagine you are referring to Sf when you mention a couple of 3rd's. And considering they are the only team with a good gap from the Bears 20 and have extra picks, they might be the only team who would consider this kind of trade. Cin, Sea, Min, & Stl all have more than the standard 7, but the swap distance would warrant more from the trade.

Not trying to be an ass lol i actually enjoy the "what would you do" conversations from time to time even though i realize the probability of anything we discus being played out like said is very very low.

**Riczaj01** · 03-07-2013, 05:39 PM

I was referring to someone that did a trade value to move back w/SF, Moving from 20 to 30's is worth a 2nd or 2 3rd's.

There is a trade calculator, but I bet w/we could drop back and even if we got another 4th it would be worth it.

**little bear** · 03-09-2013, 06:22 AM

There you go, fellas.

Draft Countdown - Trade Value Chart

The chart teams use when making trades, giving a numerical value to each draft choice.

Round 1		Round 2		Round 3		Round 4		Round 5		Round 6		Round 7
1	3,000	33	580	65	265	97	112	129	43	161	27	193	14.2
2	2,600	34	560	66	260	98	108	130	42	162	26.6	194	13.8
3	2,200	35	550	67	255	99	104	131	41	163	26.2	195	13.4
4	1,800	36	540	68	250	100	100	132	40	164	25.8	196	13
5	1,700	37	530	69	245	101	96	133	39.5	165	25.4	197	12.6
6	1,600	38	520	70	240	102	92	134	39	166	25	198	12.2
7	1,500	39	510	71	235	103	88	135	38.5	167	24.6	199	11.8
8	1,400	40	500	72	230	104	86	136	38	168	24.2	200	11.4
9	1,350	41	490	73	225	105	84	137	37.5	169	23.8	201	11
10	1,300	42	480	74	220	106	82	138	37	170	23.4	202	10.6
11	1,250	43	470	75	215	107	80	139	36.5	171	23	203	10.2
12	1,200	44	460	76	210	108	78	140	36	172	22.6	204	9.8
13	1,150	45	450	77	205	109	76	141	35.5	173	22.2	205	9.4
14	1,100	46	440	78	200	110	74	142	35	174	21.8	206	9
15	1,050	47	430	79	195	111	72	143	34.5	175	21.4	207	8.6
16	1,000	48	420	80	190	112	70	144	34	176	21	208	8.2
17	950	49	410	81	185	113	68	145	33.5	177	20.6	209	7.8
18	900	50	400	82	180	114	66	146	33	178	20.2	210	7.4
19	875	51	390	83	175	115	64	147	32.6	179	19.8	211	7
20	850	52	380	84	170	116	62	148	32.2	180	19.4	212	6.6
21	800	53	370	85	165	117	60	149	31.8	181	19	213	6.2
22	780	54	360	86	160	118	58	150	31.4	182	18.6	214	5.8
23	760	55	350	87	155	119	56	151	31	183	18.2	215	5.4
24	740	56	340	88	150	120	54	152	30.6	184	17.8	216	5
25	720	57	330	89	145	121	52	153	30.2	185	17.4	217	4.6
26	700	58	320	90	140	122	50	154	29.8	186	17	218	4.2
27	680	59	310	91	136	123	49	155	29.4	187	16.6	219	3.8
28	660	60	300	92	132	124	48	156	29	188	16.2	220	3.4
29	640	61	292	93	128	125	47	157	28.6	189	15.8	221	3
30	620	62	284	94	124	126	46	158	28.2	190	15.4	222	2.6
31	600	63	276	95	120	127	45	159	27.8	191	15	223	2.3
32	590	64	270	96	116	128	44	160	27.4	192	14.6	224	2

**Punished** · 03-10-2013, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

I was referring to someone that did a trade value to move back w/SF, Moving from 20 to 30's is worth a 2nd or 2 3rd's.

There is a trade calculator, but I bet w/we could drop back and even if we got another 4th it would be worth it.

If i'm correct(hung over & early lol) the two 3rd's and 1st round swap would put the value at 80 points difference in favor of the Bears.

Might be possible if Sf is really shopping for a return guy. Maybe involve Hester in there to to make up for the 80 point difference.

**Riczaj01** · 03-10-2013, 09:42 AM

Someone pointed out that the person getting the higher pick tends to give up more points.

**Punished** · 03-10-2013, 12:14 PM

It would make sense that a team wanting to move up has to give a little more, but i'm thinking of it more as the Bears want to move down to acquire more picks.

I'm probably over thinking the thought of "who initiates" the trade. If SF wanted to jump up then the Bears have the leverage, but if it's the Bears calling teams looking to move down then it stalemates or puts the Bears in the disAdv position..

Obviously the smart thing for Emery to do is dangle the pick in the air and see who wants it the most..but if no one bites, what kind of leverage would they have in trying to be the team to initiate the trade down.

**GermansbombedPH** · 03-10-2013, 12:29 PM

I'm pretty sure in this case that 80 points wouldn't make or break a deal

**MPBears68** · 03-10-2013, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH

I'm pretty sure in this case that 80 points wouldn't make or break a deal

80 points is a mid-4th round pick. Not insignificant by any means. I looked at the point values of Chi-SF trade scenarios a while back and if memory serves...

Trading down our 1st (20) for their 1st (31) would net approximately an extra 3rd and an extra 4th. Not a 2nd or two 3rds.

Trading down both our 1st and 2nd would net us 2 extra 3rds.

**Punished** · 03-10-2013, 01:08 PM

Bears would be on the losing side if they traded down in both 1st & 2nd for Sf's 3rd's

They would give up 354 points for Sf 3rd's which equate 330...24 point difference for SF..

The swap in 1st for a 2nd would be a difference of 27 for Bears

**GermansbombedPH** · 03-10-2013, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by MPBears68

80 points is a mid-4th round pick. Not insignificant by any means. I looked at the point values of Chi-SF trade scenarios a while back and if memory serves...

Trading down our 1st (20) for their 1st (31) would net approximately an extra 3rd and an extra 4th. Not a 2nd or two 3rds.

Trading down both our 1st and 2nd would net us 2 extra 3rds.

may be true but it makes no sense for us to trade down that much for only a 3rd

They'd have to give us a 2nd or 2 3rds to make it work

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