No More 54 per ESPN..

**Jimmors** · 03-20-2013, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by AmericanPitBull

Urls submited an offer and didn't hear a word for weeks. Now they gave him a counter offer as a take it or leave it. How are you going to continue neogotiating and bring up 3-3.5? It's a mute point.

*moot point.

And im sure his initial offer was completely reasonable and not far fetched at all [/sarcasm]

And yes, they gave him a counter, and he didnt like what was offered. However, as a business, how would he not expect a lowball offer? This is how negotiation works...one side over-reaches, another lowballs, and they try to find a middle ground. If every negotiation (especially in sports) went: "Player over-reach, team lowball, player offended" then NOTHING would ever get settled.

**yttocs** · 03-20-2013, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Jimmors

*moot point.

And im sure his initial offer was completely reasonable and not far fetched at all [/sarcasm]

And yes, they gave him a counter, and he didnt like what was offered. However, as a business, how would he not expect a lowball offer? This is how negotiation works...one side over-reaches, another lowballs, and they try to find a middle ground. If every negotiation (especially in sports) went: "Player over-reach, team lowball, player offended" then NOTHING would ever get settled.

So true.

I keep seeing the old man in Pawn Stars... I want 10k, nope, 2 k.. Ok I'll take 8 k, nope 1,5 K.

???? ok 6 K nope 1 k........

**Jimmors** · 03-20-2013, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by yttocs

So true.

I keep seeing the old man in Pawn Stars... I want 10k, nope, 2 k.. Ok I'll take 8 k, nope 1,5 K.

???? ok 6 K nope 1 k........

**Warlock** · 03-20-2013, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Chi66

I hate when people bitch about NFL players wanting more money. Yeah sometimes it's ridiculous but to an NFL starting linebacker like Lach I'm sure 2 mil IS a slap in the face. You can act all high and mighty as you please from your computer desk working whatever job but when your body is on the line and YOU'RE in the NFL then I may care about your opinion on what a player should accept. Until then, you don't really know what it's like cause you're not even close to being in their shoes.

I not only put my body on the line, but I also put my life on the line... for less than 15k a year in the Army. Lach can kick rocks, he got very well compensated for his play here. He wants more than he is worth and the management did the right thing in not over-paying him for prior service (which he was already more than adequately compensated for). Lach is the jerk here and squabbling over 1 million will cost him a lot more than that amount in the long run.

**JPosh2012** · 03-20-2013, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

Emery has to start hitting on the drafts. He reached for luxury last year in Shea, b/c he thought he was smarter then the room and thought he was a 3 down DE(which he's not), but now he HAS to land 3-4 down players, 1-4th rounds. THat is a tall order for the best GM's, but he has to do it now. That's why I'm not worried about imapct players but solid starters. Worry about the shiny paint job after you get the frame and engine working. Impact in 1 or 2 areas is great, but at the expense of the other 3 positions you need starters at.

Agreed totally. While Shea isn't a bad player Emery took a gamble on him and it has yet (It still could) work out. Looking back I would have taken DeCastro.

**matsellah** · 03-20-2013, 08:10 PM

Brian Urlacher ‏@BUrlacher547mIt was not a negotiation it was an ultimatum. Gonna miss my teammates. http://snip.ps/ultimatum

**kevperro** · 03-20-2013, 08:11 PM

I wish someone would offer me 2 million to play a game for a year. I'd love that kind of slap in the face.

**Riczaj01** · 03-20-2013, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by MPBears68

Geezus, Ric, really??? The cap number of ~ $5.45m is bullshit. It is NOT a static number. We have been over this a hundred times. Rookies don't have to be paid/contracted for months yet if need be. There's plenty of time and ways to clear cap in the meantime if need be. They've been well documented here. Numerous options, none of them outrageous. I won't reiterate them. The cap is NOT the issue.

If Urlacher was not re-sign-able for less than an over-valued price, I have no problem with moving on. Thats fine and a very reasonable business decision/tradeoff. But it is NOT because of the cap if $3m or thereabouts would have gotten it done, that's an excuse.

MP notice how quite Dallas and Wash have been, and really Oak too compared to what they normally do? If the cap wasn't an issue those teams that are normally big spenders would be right now also.

Ya it doesn't have to happen right NOW, but it DOES have to happen. So how do you make it work? Who are you cutting? Who doens't get signed? Who's WILLING to restructure? If your Peppers or Tillman, why are you restructuring for less money now for a guy who has more wealth then they do? HOW does it work? It's not just going to magically work itself out! IT's not a flexible moving #, they don't get to pay a luxury tax if they are over like in the MLB or NBA. They have to be at or under the cap. And if the team says that 2 mil was all they could offer him, then I'll believe the guys that work the #'s.

**MPBears68** · 03-20-2013, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by matsellah

Brian Urlacher ‏@BUrlacher547mIt was not a negotiation it was an ultimatum. Gonna miss my teammates. http://snip.ps/ultimatum

IF TRUE, then Emery totally fucked this up. Consider that it was never "pay Urlacher or save the money". We are going to be paying a FA LB either way. Whatever his name ends up being. We (not "might" or "could") WILL BE PAYING A FA LB. We aren't going to get two starters at LB in the draft and we have only one starter left + some scrubs/STers. If 54's price was stubbornly and unreasonably high, I understand. If he was truly willing to come back for $3m or so, then you're a dumbfuck.

Get to work, Phil. You have 35 days or so to get 2 starting LBs.

**JustAnotherBearsFan99** · 03-20-2013, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by matsellah

Yeah, um. When I retire, I hope my job just shoves me out the door with just a thank you. I'm not a charity case and football's not real.

I'm not dissing Urlacher here, and I do wish him the best. But I also recognize that this is a guy who has career earnings of over $70,150,000.00. Last year alone, he made roughly three times what the President of the United States made. He will have endorsements until the day he dies, so he's going to be even MORE filthy rich.

And us fans? He pretty much let us know that he wouldn't pee on us if we were on fire.

No problem. I wish him well. But I'm not worrying about the guy. He'll be fine. The Bears will be even better. Life will go on.

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