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Thread: With all these changes, how is this NOT a rebuilding year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    I think the word rebuild is just the wrong word to use. More like "ongoing process to upgrade the roster while getting younger at some positions" or "retooling and add to what you have" or reshuffeling.
    But we've also gutted our coaching staff, all three coordinators replaced, new schemes, playbooks, and a new GM.

    Maybe I'm naive here, but that's pretty much a gut job of the team. Like I said, even when Ditka was hired, we had kept our DC. In 2012/2013 though, we got the big broom out and swept the place clean. Urlacher is only the latest to go player-wise. A lot of changes before that - and we're not done by any means. When the final 53 man roster is set for September, it's going to have a VERY different look.

    I don't understand why folks are not liking the "rebuild" word. It's EXACTLY what is happening here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    But we've also gutted our coaching staff, all three coordinators replaced, new schemes, playbooks, and a new GM.

    Maybe I'm naive here, but that's pretty much a gut job of the team. Like I said, even when Ditka was hired, we had kept our DC. In 2012/2013 though, we got the big broom out and swept the place clean. Urlacher is only the latest to go player-wise. A lot of changes before that - and we're not done by any means. When the final 53 man roster is set for September, it's going to have a VERY different look.

    I don't understand why folks are not liking the "rebuild" word. It's EXACTLY what is happening here.
    I agree with JABF, and I consider that the re-building started last year when Emery came in. We are already a year into the re-building process. Now, rebuilding means different things in different sports. The Cubs, for example, are also rebuilding, but the dynamics are so much different between Baseball and Football that they are not comparable. I'm not sure how you can look at the changes going on at Halas Hall over the last year and say we're NOT rebuilding. About the only thing we are NOT doing is looking for a new QB, RB and WR, but when you consider the fact that we didn't even have that WR, and the RB was in question when Emery came on, one could argue that they have both been part of the rebuild.

    It's not like it's a bad word, but when more is changing about your team than is staying the same (and the management/coaching is a big part of that), how can you say it's NOT re-building. I'm fine with rebuilding given what we've seen over the last few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    But we've also gutted our coaching staff, all three coordinators replaced, new schemes, playbooks, and a new GM.

    Maybe I'm naive here, but that's pretty much a gut job of the team. Like I said, even when Ditka was hired, we had kept our DC. In 2012/2013 though, we got the big broom out and swept the place clean. Urlacher is only the latest to go player-wise. A lot of changes before that - and we're not done by any means. When the final 53 man roster is set for September, it's going to have a VERY different look.

    I don't understand why folks are not liking the "rebuild" word. It's EXACTLY what is happening here.
    still disagree.

    We wanted to keep our DC as far as reports are true... he wanted to go.



    We also fired a coach that always ended up with medicore results while firing his OC who had one of the worst offenses in the NFL while ignoring the TEs and FORTE. That's still not a rebuild, it's retooling and adapting to the new NFL. Offensiv minded, Pass first, surprise others. We FINALLY start moving forward. We are the Bears, we play like we did the past 50 years with mediocre offenses, run first and great D. How far did this take us? 1 championship since they call it "Super Bowl".

    We change the mind, we are run by football minds now, by guys that know what they are doing. We are doing what is needed. We still have 9 of 11 D starters, we still have 9 of 11 O starters and the 2 starters we changed in offense are huge upgrades we WANTED to happen.

    The core of the team is still the same. The D core is still the same as it is for years now and they are starting to get too old to get huge contracts. Urlacher was just the beginning. Peppers or Tillman will be next or both and this will end with Briggs going too. It's still a business. It's still about lots of money. This is still a basic when it comes to building a team. Those players are all humans too. They aren't Xs and Os after all, but for them, money matters more than anything in this sports business. Just look at Urlacher and tell me he really cares about the Bears? If he would, he would know about our Cap Situation, about the holes on the roster and about what can happen in the offseason. Urlacher did not accept a discount to stay by his "loved" Bears. Urlacher cares about the money, not about the Bears. While he was in his prime and good, he got lots of money and huge contracts while playing in a system that fit him 100% perfectly with a coach that just loved him.


    I will not even shad a tear over this childish millionare. All this while knowing that Roach, a solid SLB starter took his place and the D was as good as it was with him.


    You are mistaken, we are not rebuilding. Emery looks at out roster and breaks it down to Zero and fills it the best way possible and if 2 longterm starters have to go, they are gone.

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    Ultimately, it really doesn't matter what we call it. This thread is a debate about semantics as there is no definitive threshold for either re-tooling, re-building, re-branding or just off season adjustments. If we get better then we are winners and if we don't we are losers. That's really what it comes down to, at least in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4DaBERS View Post
    Ultimately, it really doesn't matter what we call it. This thread is a debate about semantics as there is no definitive threshold for either re-tooling, re-building, re-branding or just off season adjustments. If we get better then we are winners and if we don't we are losers. That's really what it comes down to, at least in my opinion.
    Kevin Seifert solved this for us in a recent column. Instead of using the "R" word, he said we can use "Transition" instead.

    Let's all be politically correct here guys. I'm gonna call it a "Transition" period, so I don't ruffle any feathers.

    I've learned something today, from you guys who don't like the "R" word. So I won't use it again unless it's REALLY a big "Transition" and it's a mob of naked angry Bears stockholders burning Halas Hall to the ground and there's a mob trying to burn, rape and pillage Chicago & the Russians unleash a nuclear attack on Soldier Field.

    Of course some here would THEN insist that's all just a "big transition" and not the "R" word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    Kevin Seifert solved this for us in a recent column. Instead of using the "R" word, he said we can use "Transition" instead.

    Let's all be politically correct here guys. I'm gonna call it a "Transition" period, so I don't ruffle any feathers.

    Sounds good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    Kevin Seifert solved this for us in a recent column. Instead of using the "R" word, he said we can use "Transition" instead.

    Let's all be politically correct here guys. I'm gonna call it a "Transition" period, so I don't ruffle any feathers.

    I've learned something today, from you guys who don't like the "R" word. So I won't use it again unless it's REALLY a big "Transition" and it's a mob of naked angry Bears stockholders burning Halas Hall to the ground and there's a mob trying to burn, rape and pillage Chicago & the Russians unleash a nuclear attack on Soldier Field.

    Of course some here would THEN insist that's all just a "big transition" and not the "R" word.
    Transition is more accurate. The reason the team is being "gutted" is not because we are "rebuilding" but because we are transitioning from a Defense-oriented team to an Offense-oriented one. Thats why it might seem like we are "rebuilding," when in fact it is more of a transition from one area of focus to another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    Kevin Seifert solved this for us in a recent column. Instead of using the "R" word, he said we can use "Transition" instead.

    Let's all be politically correct here guys. I'm gonna call it a "Transition" period, so I don't ruffle any feathers.

    I've learned something today, from you guys who don't like the "R" word. So I won't use it again unless it's REALLY a big "Transition" and it's a mob of naked angry Bears stockholders burning Halas Hall to the ground and there's a mob trying to burn, rape and pillage Chicago & the Russians unleash a nuclear attack on Soldier Field.

    Of course some here would THEN insist that's all just a "big transition" and not the "R" word.

    You do realize how you are dating yourself, as there are people on this board who have no idea that Russia is the "Evil Empire". To them that's a term applied to Star Wars Episodes I-III (not even the original Episodes IV-VI)!

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    You do realize how you are dating yourself, as there are people on this board who have no idea that Russia is the "Evil Empire". To them that's a term applied to Star Wars Episodes I-III (not even the original Episodes IV-VI)!
    LOL, yeah, you're right. I guess I should update that to North Korea nuking Soldier Field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99 View Post
    LOL, yeah, you're right. I guess I should update that to North Korea nuking Soldier Field.
    Yeah, no kidding. And FTR, I still don't trust the Russkies!

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