Thread: Official 2013 NFL Draft Thread

Originally Posted by Grizzblue

My guess is we go IOL because we are going to be gunning for a starter. A tackle at 20 wont start, and we dont have the luxury to draft Olinemen to develop. We need guys who can push the dead weight down the depth chart in TC.

that being said

1. Chance Warmack
2. Barret Jones
3. Jon Cooper

**Cooper and Jones are almsot too close to call. I give Jones the edge because he can play C or G (even tackle but he wont with us)

Man the TRADE UP option with Emery intrigues me. He's already done it with Jeffery.

Originally Posted by jackiejokeman

Man the TRADE UP option with Emery intrigues me. He's already done it with Jeffery.

Who would you trade up for, the guys we need will all most likely be there

Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH

trade up makes no sense. Really no. If anything, trade down

I agree, only possible trade up would be in the 2nd if T'eo,minter,cooper,or jones took a nosedive to the early-mid second

Originally Posted by Grizzblue

I agree, only possible trade up would be in the 2nd if T'eo,minter,cooper,or jones took a nosedive to the early-mid second

I think that is a definite possibility (no trade-up earlier than round 2 and a very possible trade-down in round 1 if conditions warrant). We could net a 3rd round pick with such a trade-down from #20 to the latter-1st. That requires a willing trade partner and the conviction that a player we want is still going to be on the board wherever we trade down to. This is all very preliminary and much depends upon FA too but I see the draft as follows.

DL/DB/RB: I'll just dispense with these by saying we have no needs here so we won't draft these positions until the tail end/udfa's if at all.

TE: Some mocks have us taking Eiffert in the 1st which I think would be DUMB. I doubt Phil goes there. There looks to be a number of quality FA TEs that will be available and it is a position that is relatively inexpensive to sign vets. Rookie TEs don't usually contribute that much offensively anyway (look at Fleenor this yr with Indy, he didn't do much despite being paired with his college QB in Luck). This need really should be filled in FA. I could maybe see drafting a develpmental prospect in the latter draft, but that's it. KDavis was a 4th rounder and he's flopped so consider reloading in the 4th-6th if someone looks promising and coach him up for the future. He won't play much this year anyway.

OT: The only way to replace Webb at LT is via FA. We all know that and it will be pricey. If Emery pulls it off, Webb competes for RT/swing-OT (probably the latter). Webb has improved enough to keep as a decent swing option and he's cheap. If Emery doesn't/can't, then Webb remains the starting LT and Carimi/Scott battle for RT/swing. In that case, I hope Emery goes after Levitre instead to be our starting LG and major FA acquisition and we look to draft a developmental OT down-draft for the future. Let's not waste a high draft pick on an RT-only type because we already have 2-3 RTs on the roster.

OG/C: If we sign a FA LT, then this should be our #1 draft priority. Maybe our #2-3 priority as well. Probably Warmack, Cooper, BJones, DThomas, Warford in approx that order. We would definitely one STARTER among these interior prospects +/- one other depth guy. I like Jones with a trade-down/extra 3rd round pick if possible to be our starting C with Brown, Garza, Louis, draft pick/Rachal/whoever competing on the OG depth chart.

LB: Totally in flux depending on what happens with BU, Hayes, and Roach. I hope we re-sign BU and 1 of the 2 others and consider drafting a LB in the 2nd or 3rd (if we net such a pick). Unless Ogletree turns out to be all that and a bag of chips, I don't want this to be our 1st pick. 2nd pick sounds about right to me.

WR: We need a speed/slot guy to replace Knox at WR, stretch defenses, and hopefully be a return man option as well. I see this as #3-4 priority. Stedman Bailey? Markus Wheaton? Will we finally have a WR coach who can develop receivers? A WR depth chart of Marshall-Jeffery-Bennett-Anderson/Tolliver-draftee-Weems/Hester (pick ONE) should be attainable.

QB: I'd consider drafting one in the latter half if the right guy is there. And I wouldn't bother saying that if not for Trestman's rep as a QB coach. I have no idea who will be our #2 next year.

That's I see it now, very preliminarily...JMO

Originally Posted by Grizzblue

My guess is we go IOL because we are going to be gunning for a starter. A tackle at 20 wont start, and we dont have the luxury to draft Olinemen to develop. We need guys who can push the dead weight down the depth chart in TC.

that being said

1. Chance Warmack
2. Barret Jones
3. Jon Cooper

**Cooper and Jones are almsot too close to call. I give Jones the edge because he can play C or G (even tackle but he wont with us)

This is where I would trade down and hopefully be high enough to select both Jones & Warmack as both of them can start from day 1.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

I think that is a definite possibility (no trade-up earlier than round 2 and a very possible trade-down in round 1 if conditions warrant). We could net a 3rd round pick with such a trade-down from #20 to the latter-1st. That requires a willing trade partner and the conviction that a player we want is still going to be on the board wherever we trade down to. This is all very preliminary and much depends upon FA too but I see the draft as follows.

DL/DB/RB: I'll just dispense with these by saying we have no needs here so we won't draft these positions until the tail end/udfa's if at all.

TE: Some mocks have us taking Eiffert in the 1st which I think would be DUMB. I doubt Phil goes there. There looks to be a number of quality FA TEs that will be available and it is a position that is relatively inexpensive to sign vets. Rookie TEs don't usually contribute that much offensively anyway (look at Fleenor this yr with Indy, he didn't do much despite being paired with his college QB in Luck). This need really should be filled in FA. I could maybe see drafting a develpmental prospect in the latter draft, but that's it. KDavis was a 4th rounder and he's flopped so consider reloading in the 4th-6th if someone looks promising and coach him up for the future. He won't play much this year anyway.

OT: The only way to replace Webb at LT is via FA. We all know that and it will be pricey. If Emery pulls it off, Webb competes for RT/swing-OT (probably the latter). Webb has improved enough to keep as a decent swing option and he's cheap. If Emery doesn't/can't, then Webb remains the starting LT and Carimi/Scott battle for RT/swing. In that case, I hope Emery goes after Levitre instead to be our starting LG and major FA acquisition and we look to draft a developmental OT down-draft for the future. Let's not waste a high draft pick on an RT-only type because we already have 2-3 RTs on the roster.

OG/C: If we sign a FA LT, then this should be our #1 draft priority. Maybe our #2-3 priority as well. Probably Warmack, Cooper, BJones, DThomas, Warford in approx that order. We would definitely one STARTER among these interior prospects +/- one other depth guy. I like Jones with a trade-down/extra 3rd round pick if possible to be our starting C with Brown, Garza, Louis, draft pick/Rachal/whoever competing on the OG depth chart.

LB: Totally in flux depending on what happens with BU, Hayes, and Roach. I hope we re-sign BU and 1 of the 2 others and consider drafting a LB in the 2nd or 3rd (if we net such a pick). Unless Ogletree turns out to be all that and a bag of chips, I don't want this to be our 1st pick. 2nd pick sounds about right to me.

WR: We need a speed/slot guy to replace Knox at WR, stretch defenses, and hopefully be a return man option as well. I see this as #3-4 priority. Stedman Bailey? Markus Wheaton? Will we finally have a WR coach who can develop receivers? A WR depth chart of Marshall-Jeffery-Bennett-Anderson/Tolliver-draftee-Weems/Hester (pick ONE) should be attainable.

QB: I'd consider drafting one in the latter half if the right guy is there. And I wouldn't bother saying that if not for Trestman's rep as a QB coach. I have no idea who will be our #2 next year.

That's I see it now, very preliminarily...JMO

Great analysis, well done

I'd agree that IOL should be number one and 2 priority via draft

We need one lock starter and one possible starter or at least someone to compete