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01-25-2013, 04:12 AM #181 
Originally Posted by
soulman
Yeah and Tice had that exact same idea how'd that work out?
It's possible a guy like Fluker could play OG but I don't think Carimi is cut out for it. But if both Fluker and Jones are both on the board at #20 why would you take Fluker who won't rate as high as Jones over him and then try to teach him a new position. If you want an OG/OC Jones would probably be the best on the board at that point.
At #20, I wouldn't take either. I'm pretty sure that there will be higher rated players available.
Cooper should be there, or Lane Johnson. If not, no reason to reach for players because of the position they play. Could end up with a CB in the 1st, could take a MLB or the best TE of the draft.
Wouldn't mind it as long it's the BPA.
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01-25-2013, 10:41 AM #182
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Call me crazy but do you trade away next years first for another 1st rounder? Maybe grab that OL guy and "Teo? If Urlacher isnt resigned??
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01-25-2013, 01:08 PM #183 
Originally Posted by
VJ18
Call me crazy but do you trade away next years first for another 1st rounder? Maybe grab that OL guy and "Teo? If Urlacher isnt resigned??
No to Te'o. I wouldn't trade away our 2014 pick to be honest about it unless we got a can't miss offer.
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01-25-2013, 06:06 PM #184 
Originally Posted by
JPosh2012
No to Te'o. I wouldn't trade away our 2014 pick to be honest about it unless we got a can't miss offer.
T'eo shouldn't even be given a thought unless he's there in round 2
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01-26-2013, 01:30 AM #185 
Originally Posted by
Grizzblue
T'eo shouldn't even be given a thought unless he's there in round 2
I still wouldnt take him in round 2 when OL is the more pressing issue.
Who did the 49er's draft at OL in 2010 ? Where are they now ? SUPERBOWL !
Lets check this out for a minute : JULIO JONES
ATLANTA traded UP to get him ... gave away more then a few draft picks.
RESULT : ATLANTA #1 seed in the playoffs.
Didnt win the SuperBowl THIS year ... but its an orgaization seeing talent and willing to pul the trigger to trade up.
Emery and Trestman have to judge talent that way for the needs of the team.
Atlanta ... like CHICAGO ... got duped when they ran into Kapernick ... not a fluke ... but the future.
Rodgers has been kind of a minny version of Kapernick thruout the years and the end result is we dont do that well against him.
Ponder and Matthew are more of the pocket type and we seem to have that under control.
But Rodgers-Kapernick-Wilson ... lets face it, those guys OWN us.
OL and TE/WR with our first 3 picks ... all other rounds go to DEFENSE.
What KIND of defense ? The kind that can throttle Rodgers-Kapernick -Wilson.
AND RG III AND Newton. Michael Vick ? If a coach knows how to coach him up.
We are going to need to draft defense that is in tune to what we have to play thruout the season.
Not just the same old NFC NORF.
Thats a tall order for Emery and Trestmann.
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01-26-2013, 01:48 AM #186
I agree we need to look OL in one and even 2 if the right guy is there
Keeping an eye out for a TE isnt a bad idea but they may be fixed via FA
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01-26-2013, 05:19 AM #187
This is one view :
LT Lane Johnson
LG Lance Louis
C Barret Jones
RG Webb
RT Carimi
We would have backups
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01-26-2013, 05:41 AM #188 
Originally Posted by
jackiejokeman
This is one view :
LT Lane Johnson
LG Lance Louis
C Barret Jones
RG Webb
RT Carimi
We would have backups
There's no way we can get both Johnson and Jones in the first round. Besides I don't really know if Webb is considered OG material. Here's what I would do: The Bears really don't have much money this offseason which means we'll probably be able to sign only 2 FAs.
Let Emery persuade LT Branden Albert to come to Chicago, then sign Buffalo's LG Andy Levitre. Re-sign Lance Louis who did great as RG, draft C Barrett Jones and voila!
LT: Albert
LG: Levitre
C: Jones
RG: Louis
RT: Carimi or Webb
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01-26-2013, 09:02 AM #189 
Originally Posted by
little bear
There's no way we can get both Johnson and Jones in the first round. Besides I don't really know if Webb is considered OG material. Here's what I would do: The Bears really don't have much money this offseason which means we'll probably be able to sign only 2 FAs.
Let Emery persuade LT Branden Albert to come to Chicago, then sign Buffalo's LG Andy Levitre. Re-sign Lance Louis who did great as RG, draft C Barrett Jones and voila!
LT: Albert
LG: Levitre
C: Jones
RG: Louis
RT: Carimi or Webb
I love the idea of trying to get 3 new starters (that we need) but I think we're only looking at one OL if it is a LT
Son with that being said let me suggest we take
Barret Jones(1)
Larry Warford (2)
And for argument sake ill say the LT is bushrod we get in FA
So with that we have
Bushrod
Warford
Jones
Louis
Carimi/Webb
Light years better than what we have
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01-26-2013, 10:01 AM #190 
Originally Posted by
jackiejokeman
This is one view :
LT Lane Johnson
LG Lance Louis
C Barret Jones
RG Webb
RT Carimi
We would have backups
The catch-22 here is that any OT who's seen as a legit rookie LT starter is very unlikely to fall to #20 and any OT that does fall that fall is very likely an RT only type or an LT "project" who isn't going to beat out Webb in TC. And we don't need another RT since we have 2 + Webb if he's ousted by a FA. If Johnson or Fisher turn out to be real deal LT-wise, they won't sniff 20. Therefore, 99% chance that it makes little sense to draft ANY OT in the first round. If we can't get a vet LT in FA, then we are riding with Webb another year and need to use FA and the draft to bolster the interior OL.
And moving players to all new positions like LL to the left and Webb to OG is the same Tice clown school stuff that made this mess worse in the first place. As starters it is,
LT: either a FA vet or Webb, that's it
LG: Brown, a 1-2 draft pick, Levitre (FA), or maybe Garza
C: Garza or (my preference) BJones
RG: Louis (yeah he'll be back)
RT: Carimi or Scott
FA: LT or Levitre if LT doesn't happen
1st: OG or C (possibly with a trade down to net a 3rd)
2nd: LB or TE or interior OL
3rd*: whatever you didn't get in 2 or a speedy slot WR (if trade down happens)
4th-6th: bpas, consider a QB and/or whatever depth hasn't been filled above
JMO