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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    I'd be happy with Cooper, Warmack or Johnson in the 1st round. 1 of them will be available. Or with the best CB if he falls THAT FAR.
    I'd like cooper or Warmack and if we do that Route what would you guys think of Fredrick (center Wisconsin) if we could get him in the 2nd?

    If we pass on Barrett Jones we still have a huge need for a real C and this guy may be able to fill an immeadiate spot.

    As far as CB I don't see it in the first, nor MLB, gota remember we have Trestman as HC who is an offensive guy and I'm sure sees the inevitable failure of both the offense and in turn the team without real overhaul of our oline

    I do not think Lane Johnson is out of the question if we don't hit a LT in FA but Webb is less of an issue than our center and gaurd positions are (not saying he's good)

    My board of offensive linemen would look something like this

    Chance Warmack
    Barret Jones
    John Cooper
    Lane Johnson
    Larry Warford
    Kevin (I think) Fredrick

    **Jones and cooper are interchangeable, I have jones higher due to 4 years of outstanding play in the best conference in cfball as well as his versatility.

    If Warmack is gone a trade down and take Barret is still my favorite situation, I'm not so sure that will happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    I'd be happy with Cooper, Warmack or Johnson in the 1st round. 1 of them will be available. Or with the best CB if he falls THAT FAR.
    I couldn't care less about who the top ranked CBs are but I'd love it if all three of those lineman were there to pick from. Not gonna happen though. But fortunately this appears to be a good draft for lineman which favors us as far as getting a guy we could use. I think they'll be at least two and maybe three still on the board at #20 to choose from.

    I'm curious why you'd spend a first round pick on a CB though GBPH. We have two Pro Bowl starters playing CB and one of them is up for NFL DPOY honors. Why would you spend a first round pick on a guy who'd sit when there are much bigger needs elsewhere?
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    Soul, every offseason you seem to be the only one who knows how much money the Bears have got. We all know that most teams won't spend that much this year. Does it mean we can only sign one FA? Or 2? Or 3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by little bear View Post
    Soul, every offseason you seem to be the only one who knows how much money the Bears have got. We all know that most teams won't spend that much this year. Does it mean we can only sign one FA? Or 2? Or 3?
    Id like to know that as well, I'm nowhere near as good with the numbers as some of you are here.


    I'd also like to add that what happens in FA (both in house and new faces) is going to go a long way in how we draft.

    Assuming we can land a LT then I think Gaurd or Center is pretty much a lock for the first pick, maybe the first two. If we miss however then it will depend on if we land anyone else (gaurds or centers) The only way I see us not taking Jones, Cooper, or Warmack is if we miss on a LT and hit on a relaiable gaurd or center. Then if Johnson is there I think we take him but id expect a follow up in the 2nd of a potential starter at the remaining void between C and LG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    I'd be happy with Cooper, Warmack or Johnson in the 1st round. 1 of them will be available. Or with the best CB if he falls THAT FAR.
    Someone mentioned that we did just have TWO CB's in the PRO BOWL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzblue View Post
    I'd like cooper or Warmack and if we do that Route what would you guys think of Fredrick (center Wisconsin) if we could get him in the 2nd?

    If we pass on Barrett Jones we still have a huge need for a real C and this guy may be able to fill an immeadiate spot.

    As far as CB I don't see it in the first, nor MLB, gota remember we have Trestman as HC who is an offensive guy and I'm sure sees the inevitable failure of both the offense and in turn the team without real overhaul of our oline

    I do not think Lane Johnson is out of the question if we don't hit a LT in FA but Webb is less of an issue than our center and gaurd positions are (not saying he's good)

    My board of offensive linemen would look something like this

    Chance Warmack
    Barret Jones
    John Cooper
    Lane Johnson
    Larry Warford
    Kevin (I think) Fredrick

    **Jones and cooper are interchangeable, I have jones higher due to 4 years of outstanding play in the best conference in cfball as well as his versatility.

    If Warmack is gone a trade down and take Barret is still my favorite situation, I'm not so sure that will happen
    I'm thinking more along the lines of Jones ... he just seems lika a natural BEAR. Thats hard to describe. Think : MARK BORTZ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzblue View Post
    Id like to know that as well, I'm nowhere near as good with the numbers as some of you are here.


    I'd also like to add that what happens in FA (both in house and new faces) is going to go a long way in how we draft.

    Assuming we can land a LT then I think Gaurd or Center is pretty much a lock for the first pick, maybe the first two. If we miss however then it will depend on if we land anyone else (gaurds or centers) The only way I see us not taking Jones, Cooper, or Warmack is if we miss on a LT and hit on a relaiable gaurd or center. Then if Johnson is there I think we take him but id expect a follow up in the 2nd of a potential starter at the remaining void between C and LG.
    All great posts ! This is going to get interesting as the combine and other things playout in F.A.

    We better be in the running across the board.

    BTW ... do I think McClellin is the next MLB ?

    You never heard it from me.

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    These are the 73 players who have passed up their remaining NCAA eligibility to enter the 2013 NFL draft:

    Keenan Allen, WR, California
    David Amerson, DB, North Carolina State
    Alvin Bailey, G, Arkansas
    Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
    David Bakhtiari, T, Colorado
    Dwayne Beckford, LB, Purdue
    Le’Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State
    Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
    Tyler Bray, QB,Tennessee
    Terrence Brown, DB, Stanford
    Duron Carter, WR, Ohio State
    Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas
    Mike Edwards, DB, Hawaii
    Matt Elam, DB, Florida
    Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
    Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
    Chris Faulk, T, Louisiana State
    Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
    Michael Ford, RB, Louisiana State
    Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
    Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia
    William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
    Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
    Jajuan Harley, DB, Middle Tennessee
    DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
    Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
    Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
    Stefphon Jefferson, RB, Nevada
    Tony Jefferson, DB, Oklahoma
    Jelani Jenkins, LB, Florida
    Luke Joeckel, T, Texas A&M
    Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia
    Jose Jose, DT, Central Florida
    Joe Kruger, DE, Utah
    Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
    Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina
    Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn
    Bennie Logan, DT, Louisiana State
    Stansly Maponga, DE, Texas Christian
    Tyrann Mathieu, DB, Louisiana State
    Dee Milliner, DB, Alabama
    Barkevious Mingo, DE, Louisiana State
    Kevin Minter, LB, Louisiana State
    Sam Montgomery, DE, Louisiana State
    Brandon Moore, DT, Texas
    Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
    Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
    Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
    Bradley Randle, RB, Nevada-Las Vegas
    Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma State
    Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
    Eric Reid, DB, Louisiana State
    Greg Reid, DB, Florida State
    Xavier Rhodes, DB, Florida State
    Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
    Nickell Robey, DB, Southern California
    Logan Ryan, DB, Rutgers
    Ace Sanders, WR, South Carolina
    Darrington Sentimore, DT, Tennessee
    Tharold Simon, DB, Louisiana State
    Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
    Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois
    Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
    Levine Toilolo, TE, Stanford
    Spencer Ware, RB, Louisiana State
    Menelik Watson, T, Florida State
    Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
    Steve Williams, DB, California
    Marquess Wilson, WR, Washington State
    Brad Wing, P, Louisiana State
    Cierre Wood, RB, Notre Dame
    Robert Woods, WR, Southern California
    Tom Wort, LB, Oklahoma

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    BARRET JONES and :
    The Lisfranc joint is the point at which the metatarsal bones (the long bones that lead up to the toes) and the tarsal bones (the bones in the arch, which include the cuneiform bones) connect. The Lisfranc ligament is a tough band of tissue that joins two of these bones. It is important for maintaining proper alignment and strength of this joint.


    Lisfranc injuries occur as a result of trauma to the midfoot. In the case of a football player, a Lisfranc injury most commonly occurs when the forefoot is planted on the ground with the heel in the air. A downward or twisting force on the heel causes stress on and potential damage to the foot.

    There are three types of Lisfranc injuries, which sometimes occur together:


    • Sprains: The Lisfranc ligament, as well as other ligaments on the bottom of the midfoot, are stronger than the ligaments on the top of the midfoot. Therefore, when they are weakened through a sprain (a stretching of the ligament), patients experience instability of the joint in the middle of the foot.
    • Fractures: A break in a bone in the Lisfranc joint can be either an avulsion fracture (a small piece of bone is pulled off) or a break through the bone or bones of the midfoot.
    • Dislocations: The bones of the Lisfranc joint may be forced from their normal positions.


    A Lisfranc injury is initially diagnosed based on the history and description of the injury. A patient may describe the immediate onset of pain in the midfoot region. There may be difficulty or even an inability to put weight on the injured foot.

    Over the course of the ensuing days, swelling and bruising often occurs, and on a physical exam, the injured patient will be tender over Lisfranc's joint.

    Any suspected injury should be evaluated studied initially with x-rays of the foot. When an injury occurs that involves a fracture in this region, a CT scan or MRI are best for evaluating the complex bony detail of the region. MRI in particular is helpful in detailed evaluation of the ligaments, and it can see bruising in the small bones of the foot, which indicates an acute injury.

    If testing determines that the injury is stable, with the bones still in their proper orientation, a Lisfranc injury may be treated with a period of non-weightbearing followed by gradual return to normal activites. For a stable Lisfranc injury, treatment begins with a period of immobilization either in a removable boot or frequently a cast that includes the foot and the leg below the knee (a short leg cast).

    This typically lasts 6 to 8 weeks with the patient using crutches and not allowed to put weight on the injured extremity.

    If the injury is unstable, or even if the suspicion is there for it to be unstable, then surgical treatment is warranted. The timing of surgery depends on the amount of swelling and the status of the skin overlying the injured foot. If there is too much swelling or the skin is in poor condition from the injury, a short period of elevation and swelling control is warranted prior to surgery.

    Surgery typically involves rigidly stabilizing the injured joints. The specific midfoot joints that are stabilized depend on the specific ligaments that are injured and may vary somewhat on a case-by-case basis.

    The majority of the time, stabilizing the injured region requires one or a few relatively small incisions, the placement of screws and in some cases wires. By holding the involved joints rigid, the torn ligaments are allowed to heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiejokeman View Post
    BARRET JONES and :
    The Lisfranc joint is the point at which the metatarsal bones (the long bones that lead up to the toes) and the tarsal bones (the bones in the arch, which include the cuneiform bones) connect. The Lisfranc ligament is a tough band of tissue that joins two of these bones. It is important for maintaining proper alignment and strength of this joint.


    Lisfranc injuries occur as a result of trauma to the midfoot. In the case of a football player, a Lisfranc injury most commonly occurs when the forefoot is planted on the ground with the heel in the air. A downward or twisting force on the heel causes stress on and potential damage to the foot.

    There are three types of Lisfranc injuries, which sometimes occur together:


    • Sprains: The Lisfranc ligament, as well as other ligaments on the bottom of the midfoot, are stronger than the ligaments on the top of the midfoot. Therefore, when they are weakened through a sprain (a stretching of the ligament), patients experience instability of the joint in the middle of the foot.
    • Fractures: A break in a bone in the Lisfranc joint can be either an avulsion fracture (a small piece of bone is pulled off) or a break through the bone or bones of the midfoot.
    • Dislocations: The bones of the Lisfranc joint may be forced from their normal positions.


    A Lisfranc injury is initially diagnosed based on the history and description of the injury. A patient may describe the immediate onset of pain in the midfoot region. There may be difficulty or even an inability to put weight on the injured foot.

    Over the course of the ensuing days, swelling and bruising often occurs, and on a physical exam, the injured patient will be tender over Lisfranc's joint.

    Any suspected injury should be evaluated studied initially with x-rays of the foot. When an injury occurs that involves a fracture in this region, a CT scan or MRI are best for evaluating the complex bony detail of the region. MRI in particular is helpful in detailed evaluation of the ligaments, and it can see bruising in the small bones of the foot, which indicates an acute injury.

    If testing determines that the injury is stable, with the bones still in their proper orientation, a Lisfranc injury may be treated with a period of non-weightbearing followed by gradual return to normal activites. For a stable Lisfranc injury, treatment begins with a period of immobilization either in a removable boot or frequently a cast that includes the foot and the leg below the knee (a short leg cast).

    This typically lasts 6 to 8 weeks with the patient using crutches and not allowed to put weight on the injured extremity.

    If the injury is unstable, or even if the suspicion is there for it to be unstable, then surgical treatment is warranted. The timing of surgery depends on the amount of swelling and the status of the skin overlying the injured foot. If there is too much swelling or the skin is in poor condition from the injury, a short period of elevation and swelling control is warranted prior to surgery.

    Surgery typically involves rigidly stabilizing the injured joints. The specific midfoot joints that are stabilized depend on the specific ligaments that are injured and may vary somewhat on a case-by-case basis.

    The majority of the time, stabilizing the injured region requires one or a few relatively small incisions, the placement of screws and in some cases wires. By holding the involved joints rigid, the torn ligaments are allowed to heal.
    Awesome post Jackie thanks for the info

    The more I hear about that the less concerned I feel that it would linger into OTAs and TC if we took him

    For now though it may work out to our favor if we could get him on a small trade down due to missing the combine possibly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzblue View Post
    Awesome post Jackie thanks for the info

    The more I hear about that the less concerned I feel that it would linger into OTAs and TC if we took him

    For now though it may work out to our favor if we could get him on a small trade down due to missing the combine possibly
    Yeah it looks like if you dont rush this along he should be good to go. He did win three awards at three positions on OL.

    Emery : So Jones hows the foot doing before the draft?

    Jones : Its healed.

    Emery : Draft him !

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    Dont you just LOVE rebuilding the COACHING staff ?

    First time in 9 years.

    Hell ... its what makes BEARS FOOTBALL interesting !

    The fun is when as WANNSTADT said : ALL THE PLACES ARE IN PIECES.

    Ahh ... but that was then ... been used to 9 years of ... whatever. Always the bridesmaid ... never the bride.

    Emery ... Trestmann ... Tucker ... etc. Whatever we once again have to give this crew a chance to redeem our CHICAGO BEARS.

    And not one snap of the ball has been taken yet. But is there a feeling of GROWTH?

    With the coaching changes, do we feel its growing ?

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