02-03-2013, 02:27 PM #221
Two things: 1.Jackiejokeman, why do you capitalize so many words? It is not necessary at all...
2. If some sort of crazy magic happened and Eric Fisher fell to #20, what would you do to celebrate?
02-03-2013, 03:00 PM #222
We kicked their ass opening day of 2011. Sacked Ryan 5 times, Lach picked him, and Peanut punched out a fumble on Turner.
Originally Posted by jackiejokeman
02-04-2013, 02:14 AM #223
Because I felt like it.
Originally Posted by Walshy
If we got Fisher at #20 I would CELEBRATE by typing WORDS IN CAPS.
Thanx for the update !
Originally Posted by MPBears68
Well one thing is for sure that roll out pocket passers and some who can also run for TD's are in the SuperBowl.
What did they both have in common ? A decent OL.
Somthing JCut would kill for. Both teams had good defenses ... special teams ... wide receivers ... good running backs.
Sound familiar outside of the lack of an OL?
02-07-2013, 08:54 PM #224
Predecessor: Lovie Smith
Others interviewed: general manager Phil Emery spoke with 13 candidates before tabbing Trestman, Seattle offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell and ex-Indianapolis offensive coordinator Bruce Arians as his finalists.
Why Trestman?: As evidenced by seven of the eight head-coaching hires to fill vacancies, offense-oriented candidates had favored status. Trestman also had appeal as someone who could bring out-of-the-box ideas into the NFL like Harbaugh has done with San Francisco’s use of Pistol formations. He spent the past five seasons as the Montreal Alouettes head coach in the Canadian Football League as well as 2005 and 2006 as North Carolina State’s offensive coordinator.
Biggest philosophical change: Trestman’s specialty is working with quarterbacks, from having coached and played the position personally (University of Minnesota/Minnesota State). This should be great news for Jay Cutler, whose units under three coordinators the past four seasons (Ron Turner, Mike Martz and Mike Tice) never finished ranked above 23rd in average yards per game. New coordinator Aaron Kromer will specialize in the running game and bring some of the concepts he learned as offensive line coach of the New Orleans Saints.
Most pressing task: Earning the trust and respect of veteran players with strong loyalty to Smith, who was fired after nine seasons despite having a 10-6 record in 2012. Trestman’s brainy approach and white-collar background stands in contrast to Smith’s low-key delivery and East Texas roots. Trestman should get a boost from the hiring of ex-Jacksonville defensive coordinator Mel Tucker for the same position in Chicago. Tucker reportedly plans to keep the same Tampa-2 style of defense the unit played under Smith, which would ease the transition.
Overall: Of the eight vacancies, Trestman couldn’t have landed in a more appealing situation. The Bears have a franchise quarterback, elite wide receiver Brandon Marshall, a two-headed running back combination Matt Forte and Michael Bush, some of the league’s best defensive talent and a history of outstanding special teams.
With a few offseason offensive upgrades, particularly on the offensive line and at tight end, the Bears are poised to become a bona fide Super Bowl contender. It’s incumbent upon Trestman to quickly get Chicago into the playoffs – something Smith couldn’t accomplish in five of the past six seasons with much of the same core talent.
02-07-2013, 09:23 PM #225
Yeah concidering Trestman is here I would be floored if we didn't go OL in 1 and possibly 2
Being a qb and offensive guy I can't imagine he is ok with what has happened to cutler and the o in general
02-08-2013, 10:47 PM #226
Originally Posted by Grizzblue
Its like we are starting all over again and in effect we are. We dont know what is going to happen, havent seen this big of a shakeup in nine years.
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02-09-2013, 10:52 AM #227
Fisher would be a nice pick but I have a feeling he won't fall as far as #20 and we don't have a lot of fuel in the tank to trade up with this year lacking that 3rd. I have another thought and FA will tell us how well that could work.
To me we gain more now if we sign a LT in FA and if we do that allows us to lower the priority as far as drafting one in the first round and ending up with the 3rd or 4th best LT prospect. Considering that we have a guy like Kromer who has been able to build a great line out of lower round picks we may be able to find a kid to develop behind a vet over the next two or three years.
If this draft goes like others then the top OGs and OCs will fall far below they're overall ranking and guys like Cooper or Jones will still be on the board at #20. I still see the need for better play and better leadership at OC as being a huge component as far as rebuilding that line. Drafting a kid like Jones in one either with the 20th pick or lower if we can trade back and get him seems to me like we could take care of that need.
In the second there should still be some decent OT and maybe even better an OG we can draft like the kid from Kentucky. We need a LT badly but unless we get the perfect guy there's no assurance that he'll do any better year one than Webb has been doing. With Webb, Carimi, Brandon, Brown and even Scott we actually have young OTs who just need to learn to play better. I'm hoping Kromer can get that job done like he did in NOLA.
OG and OC are where we have some issues with age and the right kind of lineman. Garza should be replaced, Louis may suffer from an extended recovery like Carimi did, Spencer is useless at anywhere but RG and even there he's no prize, EWill looks to me like a career sub, and right now Brown is a man without a position. Is he an OG or an OT?
Maybe I'm wrong but I'm thinking we'd be better off to sign a FA LT and draft the interior lineman because we'll get higher rated players at those spots drafting where we do than we will OTs. Webb improved some and I still believe with a year off to rebuild his football strength that Carimi will bounce back. So as far as I'm concerned there's our RT and Swing OT and overall they come cheap. Spend the FA $$$ on a good LT and draft an OC and an OG who will also be cheap compared to what a top FA would get. Both of them will cost less than a guy like LeVitre or any other top FA lineman.
If we've got just enough free cap space for one big FA signing that God please let it be a decent LT who can pass block. I think with some good coaching and some young talent inside we can make the rest work.
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02-09-2013, 04:29 PM #228
Kind of off topic here, but didn't want to start a new thread for something so minor. Like many of you, I'm kind of a draft geek and really enjoy this time of year. I was doing a little research today on various players/positions, and looking through a few mocks. I found something that reflects the kind of, well, stupidity of all we do here with identifying players will "go here" or "go there", like we all know so much. I was looking over a TE, Travis Kelce, and noticed that the DraftTek mock has him as Mr. Irrelevant" (last guy picked in the draft), but Rotoworld shows him as the 30th overall pick to the Falcons in the 1st round. Wow, quite a discrepancy in opinions there, Huh?
My only point is that nobody really knows anything at this point, and this shows it.
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02-09-2013, 06:02 PM #229
Originally Posted by 4DaBERS
Or just that Draftek (and the bulk of its contributing bs mock websites) is a piece of crap and rotoworld overvalues positions based upon trends and team needs rather than actual value. In reality, Kelce has mid round talent with added positional value and upside based around the athleticism, senior production and character that teams crave to push him into second round consideration.
Teams (and myself) make up the vast bulk of their opinion on these guys based on their game tape, and that's the way it should and always will be. There will always be the guys who falls drastically because of his awful workouts and interviews to expose his lack of pro athleticism and attitude, and there will always be the guys who shoot up the boards because they are workout warriors. However, by and large, what you see is what you get and the combine and pro days don't really affect boards too crazily.
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02-10-2013, 02:00 PM #230
I agree and with a point made earlier that OG/OC tend to fall due to there position undereval
I still think there is a SLIGHT chance Warmack will make it to 20 if the rams pass on him
If that happens emery should break some kind of land speed record on his way to submit the pick
Decastro fell and NO ONE thought that would happen last year, if a few combine heros and a few reaches on qbs des lts move him down I think it's not out of the question
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