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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    yep, and it's kinda boring b/c there is no actual news so everyone is just spewing bs and theory, even the actual news "insiders". We all have to remember to not take ourselves to seriously or act like we're an actual scout w/someone elses opinion not having any merit b/c we're all just armchair gm's in the end. This is all just b/s fun to keep us talking to online friends about stuff we all love.


    I don't think Cooper will be there; not sure if Fluker will either in all honesty. I'm wondering what will happen w/Ogletree, a few arrests is not traditionally something the Mc's would allow...but they are supposedly out of the fold. Someone is bound to jump on him, just not sure if it's going to be in the first. He was really who I hoped the team would take at 20, I thought he showed a ton of talent in the few games I watched of college football this year. Dude looked like a beast; just not sure if you can really on a guy like that in a position like MLB.
    Yeah all good points, and some conversations get edgy on here but it's all in good fun, and IMO everyone on here are more intelligent fans than most in part due to the different theroies and opinions we offer.

    Back to the matter at hand I am starting to feel like Warmack is going top 10 and cooper will go 16 to STL. Just my opinion, from what the combine showed cooper looked every bit as good as Warmack, and both looked head and shoulders above the rest.

    Olgetree has been the only LB I've really liked at 20 but those bonehead decisions are a bit scary and a risk for sure. Really got to wonder what in the hell you are thinking being 2 months from the most important day of your life and career. All you have to do is play a game and make millions for the next 8-15 years and then you can do all the stupid crap you want. Jus baffles me.

    Back to the matter at hand I just am not sure what I want to see if coop is gone. A trade down may be our best option in that case but we better have some dance partners lined up if that is something emery feels good doing.

    And if we move down to 26-38ish what can we expect in return? SF is an obvious potential partner but then who would you guys want to see taken in that range. I'd advocate for jones or even Te'o in that range they are good value. Warford may be a bit of reach there unless it was 38-42ish but our new staff does like gargantuan gaurds. If we let Melton go walking Kwan Short would be a good option (I played against him in high school ...longest 48 minutes of my life)

    Decisions decisions what is your guys thoughts?

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    I'm thinking that the weak QB class this year might cause the linemen on both sides of the ball to be picked a bit earlier than normal.
    "Professional Armchair Quarterback" and other oxymora.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by XaosGorilla View Post
    I'm thinking that the weak QB class this year might cause the linemen on both sides of the ball to be picked a bit earlier than normal.
    Yeah me too I was hoping some qbs would sucker top 19 teams into reaching but I think smith will be the only qb off the board when were up

    That DT outa Utah has a heart condition I'm afraid that will be one less pick before us as well

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    It looks like Urlacheris going to be back.

    This fucker is good on the other hand in a draft that needs to protect its Quarterbacks ...

    at linebacker :

    Cornelius Washington :

    6'4 265, 4.55 official arm length just over 34 inches and 36 reps on the bench (I think 38 was the best anyone did there this year at any position). In other words, the closest thing to Urlacher (athletically speaking) that this year's draft has to offer.

    I'm all for this guy but we better stick to the facts as much as we hate to hear them and go balls out offense every chance we get,

    this game is changing and if we dont protect our QB then anything else is useless.

    CHICAGO BEARS DEFENSE ... has not won a SUPERBOWL since 1986. Those are just the FACTS.

    Maybe its time to get our collective heads out of our asses. Because other teams have in the last 26 years.

    THATS 26 FUCKING YEARS MOTHERFUCKERS ... not 25 ... 26. Arent we done with this yet?

    When do we plant our flag again in the NFL ? I hate the fact that Frisco got to a SUPERBOWL instead of us.
    Last edited by jackiejokeman; 02-27-2013 at 04:07 PM.

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    Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State
    Arthur Brown packed on 10 pounds on top of his listed weight at Kansas State, checking in at 6-0, 241. Brown should be able to play every position in the 4-3 in addition to inside linebacker in the 3-4. That versatility will be huge for his draft stock. He could be picked at the end of the first round.

    Jon Bostic, ILB, Florida
    Jon Bostic had a great performance on Monday. He ran an unofficial 4.50 40 with an impressive 1.58 10-yard split. He also looked good in the field drills, which should help him get picked on the second day of the 2013 NFL Draft.

    Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Souhern Miss
    Jamie Collins nearly broke the vertex. Seriously. He leapt up and touched the near top of it, causing the thing to shake and nearly collapse. Collins registered a 41.5-inch vertical with an 11-7 broad jump, a 4.59 40 and a 1.56 10-yard split. He's a freak athlete who really helped himself in Indianapolis.





    Zaviar Gooden, OLB, Missouri
    Zaviar Gooden had one of the most impressive bench performances by any linebacker. Gooden recorded 27 reps of 225 despite weighing almost exactly that amount (234).

    FEB. 25 UPDATE: Gooden had the fastest unofficial time of all the linebackers, securing a 4.47 official 40 with a 1.53 10-yard split. He also notched a 10-11 broad jump.

    Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida
    Jelani Jenkins is another linebacker who added some unexpected weight to his frame. Listed in the 230s at Florida, Jenkins showed up to the Combine at 6-0, 243.

    FEB. 25 UPDATE: Jenkins' strong showing continued. He managed 27 reps of 225 during Sunday's bench press.

    Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
    Terrible news for Jarvis Jones - the medical exams did not go so well. He received red flags from many teams, and Draft Insider's Tony Pauline reported that at least 10 teams took him off their draft boards. Pauline also predicted a Da'Quan Bowers-like fall for Jones. I had Jones going at No. 17 to the Steelers in my most recent , but I may now knock him down even further.
    Sio Moore, DE/OLB, Connecticut
    Another linebacker who had some positive weight gain. Sio Moore was listed at 6-2, 229 at Connecticut. He checked in at 6-1, 245. The lost inch doesn't matter; the 16 added pounds are huge because it allows Moore to be projected to most 3-4 teams as a rush linebacker.

    FEB. 24 UPDATE: Moore did well on the bench. Only one linebacker (Cornelius Washington) recorded more reps. Moore put up 225 pounds 29 times.

    FEB. 25 UPDATE: Moore was one of the most impressive linebackers in the field drills. He also notched a 4.62 unofficial 40, a 38-inch vertical and a 10-5 broad jump. Mike Mayock said that he has Moore as a second-round prospect.

    Sean Porter, OLB, Texas A&M
    Here's a linebacker who didn't put on the necessary bulk. Sean Porter actually dropped a pound, weighing in at 6-1, 229. Porter projects as a 4-3 weakside linebacker only, which is not good news for his draft stock because he doesn't seem particularly suited for that position.

    Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame
    The consensus was that Manti Te'o handled himself well in front of a packed press conference. I would agree with that. He gave all of the right answers and seemed genuine. However, it's the press conference itself that happens to be the issue. NFL personnel hate distractions and media circuses, and that's exactly what they're going to get with Te'o. Some teams will purposely avoid Te'o in the first round because of this.

    FEB. 25 UPDATE: Mike Mayock said Te'o had to run a 4.75 or better to maintain his draft status as a 20-32 prospect. Te'o went 4.82. He also looked a little stiff in the drills. There's now a legitimate chance he'll fall into the second round.



    Chase Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford
    Chase Thomas has been a prospect who's been falling throughout the draft process. He was unable to use the Combine to halt his collapsing stock. He ran a 4.91 40 and didn't look very good overall. He's a third-day prospect at this point.

    Cornelius Washington, DE/OLB, Georgia
    Cornelius Washington blew every linebacker away Sunday in the bench press. He posted 36 reps. The next-closest linebacker was Sio Moore with 29 reps.

    FEB. 25 UPDATE: Washington continued to dominate the Combine on Monday. He ran an unofficial 4.50 40 and also registered a 39-inch vertical and 10-8 broad jump. Washington had very little production at Georgia, so this performance was very important for his draft stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiejokeman View Post
    at linebacker :

    Cornelius Washington :

    6'4 265, 4.55 official arm length just over 34 inches and 36 reps on the bench (I think 38 was the best anyone did there this year at any position). In other words, the closest thing to Urlacher (athletically speaking) that this year's draft has to offer.

    I'm all for this guy but we better stick to the facts as much as we hate to hear them and go balls out offense every chance we get,
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    He's a 4-3 DE or 3-4 rush LB. He has very little experience dropping into coverage and he's just not the type of loose athlete you need in the middle of the field. He's very tightly wound and lacks the hip fluidity and flexibility to play 4-3 LB. I'll say the same thing about him that I have about Shea in discussions of moving him to MLB. Just because he's a tremendous athlete, doesn't mean he's the right athlete. MLB takes a lot more than size and speed -- namely intelligence, diagnosis skills, great fluidity and experience in coverage and dropback skills as much as sideline-to-sideline ability these days.

    Stick to rants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox View Post
    He's a 4-3 DE or 3-4 rush LB. He has very little experience dropping into coverage and he's just not the type of loose athlete you need in the middle of the field. He's very tightly wound and lacks the hip fluidity and flexibility to play 4-3 LB. I'll say the same thing about him that I have about Shea in discussions of moving him to MLB. Just because he's a tremendous athlete, doesn't mean he's the right athlete. MLB takes a lot more than size and speed -- namely intelligence, diagnosis skills, great fluidity and experience in coverage and dropback skills as much as sideline-to-sideline ability these days.

    Stick to rants.
    Whadayya mean stick to ants? Ants stick to me on picnics ... damn things are all over me. How come you gave up on Ogaltree?

    Why are we even having this discussion if Urlacher is coming back ?

    Look Kroney before we go off on a tangent about MLB lets get one thing straight ...

    MLB in any time in the future aint going to mean shit if JCut is planted on a regular basis.

    I mean c'mon man lets get the fuck real here dude,it all is and ends with JCut being protected, we can draft and sign a million MLB's. IT DONT MEAN SHIT.

    If I cant keep my QB upright then every ST we draft is a WASTE ... every MLB ... every godamn son of a bitching DL ... some jackoff punter ...

    every goddammn fucking thing we draft or sign in F.A. is a JOKE if we dont address the issue that what is going to score points.

    In that respect you and I must agree to disagree ... I say we build an OL and TE also ... once again ... KEEP CUTLER UPRIGHT.

    If we can do what other NFL teams take for granted when it comes to QB in terms of protection ...

    if that issue is addressed in the early rounds that has been forsaken under the old angelo regime ... gimme at least 3 in that catagory in the first 3 picks ...

    you get the rest of the draft ... you can go apeshit dude ... do whatever the fuck you want.

    Just help me keep the FRANCHISE intact. Because without the FRANCHISE we are truely FUCKED. I think we both know that.

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    With Trestman at the helm, I fully expect a OL to be taken first, with a serious outside shot at a TE

    Lovie on the other hand I'm sure would be screaming to anyone who would listen to draft a MLB...and would prolly get his way.

    New philosophy that isn't overly biased towards defense means that we will most likely see a bit attempt to upgrade or OL and offense in general, and the defense may take a minor hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by XaosGorilla View Post
    I'm thinking that the weak QB class this year might cause the linemen on both sides of the ball to be picked a bit earlier than normal.
    I wouldn't be shocked if that we're the case. The good thing is that it may allow us to trade down potentially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPosh2012 View Post
    I wouldn't be shocked if that we're the case. The good thing is that it may allow us to trade down potentially.
    SF would be our best chance at a dance partner for a trade down. They have too many picks to begin wtih BEFORE the alleged ASmith trade that will go down.

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