Thread: Official 2013 NFL Draft Thread

OK because I'm a glutton for punishment and I am going to get kicked for suggesting this :

Cornelius Washington

2012:
Appeared in 14 games making 10 starts and had 22 tackles, 13 quarterback pressures and a fumble recovery.
Blocked a field goal that was returned by teammate Alec Ogletree for touchdown in 3rd quarter vs. No. 2 Alabama in SEC Championship.
Had two tackles and a fumble recovery vs. No. 3 Florida.
Had four tackles vs. Tennessee.
Had five tackles, including 2.5 tackles for loss at Missouri.
Had four tackles, including half of a sack against Buffalo.
Named to Preseason Butkus Award Watch List.
Recipient of the J.E. and W.S. Hickey Football Scholarship.

2011:
Appeared in 12 games making six starts recording 17 tackles including 6.0 TFL and 5.0 sacks while also notching 29 QBPs.
In SEC, ranked tied 13th with 0.42 sacks per game.
Earned Athletic Director's Honor Roll distinction for fall semester.
In SEC Championship vs. No. 1 LSU recorded three tackles including a six-yard sack and had two QBPs.
Missed the Tennessee and Vanderbilt games while serving a two-game suspension.
Had four tackles including two sacks vs. Mississippi State.
Named preseason All-SEC Fourth Team by Phil Steele.
Recipient of the J.E. and W.S. Hickey Football Scholarship.

2010:
Appeared in 12 games making eight starts recording 24 tackles and six quarterback pressures.
Had a career-high seven tackles at No. 24 South Carolina
Had four tackles, including a sack, vs. No. 12 Arkansas.
Recipient of the Rebecca and Leon Farmer, III, Scholarship.
Recorded five tackles in G-Day game.

2009:
Appeared in 13 games with one start making 13 tackles, including four sacks, and 13 quarterback pressures.
Posted season-high three tackles vs. No. 25 Auburn & vs. Texas A&M.
Made first-career start vs. Tennessee Tech and had two tackles.
Missed spring drills following due to forearm and shoulder injuries.
Recipient of Rebecca and Leon Farmer, III, Football Scholarship.
2008: Redshirted.

High School: Burke County, coached by Eric Parker...SuperPrep All-America, All-Dixie Teams...PrepStar Top 135 Dream Team... 2007 Atlanta Journal-Constitution Super Southern 100 ... 2007 Georgia Football Magazine First-Team All-State ... 2008 Rivals.com Rivals250, weakside defensive ends (3), Georgia Top 50 (10)...UGASports Georgia Top 50 (7)... Scout.com four-star prospect, Top 150, #136 player in America, #13 DE in the nation, #42 prospect in the South, #9 prospect in Georgia... 2008 Parade All-American "One's To Watch" list ...Georgia Sports Writers Association Class AAA All-State Honorable Mention... as a senior in 2007, recorded 55 tackles including 44 solo, six sacks, 18 tackles for a loss, forced three fumbles and registered seven QB pressures ...

also appeared as an offensive threat, catching four passes for 17 yards and two touchdowns.

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All I am saying is that somwhere in the draft this guy can be had and is he worth a look see?

Shea McClellins sack totals just blew me away last season at DE. I'll bet he did yours too.

Uhh ... Jared Allen he wasnt.

Would you like to see McClellin moved to LB?

Would you like to see Washington at DE? If the pick was right?

Roach is gone.

Originally Posted by jackiejokeman

All I am saying is that somwhere in the draft this guy can be had and is he worth a look see?

Shea McClellins sack totals just blew me away last season at DE. I'll bet he did yours too.

Uhh ... Jared Allen he wasnt.

Playing in less than a third of the D snaps last year, McClellin notched 29 combined sacks, hits and hurries. That QB disruption ratio is the best among all DE's drafted last year. Shea is a DE who had a deceptively good year at the position. He's a DE with the ability drop into coverage like a 3-4 LB, his athletic versatility is his greatest asset, but make no mistake, his greatest value to this team is as a pass rusher.

As for Washington, he isn't an awful DE prospect, but I'd just as soon grab a freak athlete like Glenn Foster late to back up multiple positions along the line.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherBearsFan99

When I typed that Ric, I was thinking of George Blanda. But there have been Super Bowls won by backup QB's. Here's a link of the top 10 backup QB's of all time. But I wasn't thinking of those guys, but rather Blanda. I always liked the guy (he played for us in the '50's).

The year Blanda had in '70 for the Raiders was one of the most exciting seasons I ever watched. And I'm not a Raider fan at all. But I loved watching Blanda come off the bench to lead that team to wins. BTW, we played for the Bears in the late 50's.

Blanda wasn't the only backup QB to salvage a season for a team. But he's the guy I remember most. I believe backups can salvage seasons, and not just QB's.

Again, all those guys are from the mid 90's or before. This game is not the same, the QB position is even more imporant now then it was 20 years ago. 20 years ago all your backup not screw up and let the D/run game keep them in it. But the rules don't favor the D and run game now.

Am I saying that no vet could come in here and help, no, but the vast majority of qb's saving a teams season over the last 4-5 years have all been young qb's, not former starters coming from other teams costing the team 2-3mil in cap. I don't care what happened 20 years ago, I care what's happening now.

In todays NFL you cannot have multi million $$ backups who have done nothing but prove they cannot win as a starter in the NFL being your backup. You need someone that you think can win as an NFL starter, b/c that is essentially what your backup is going to be if your franchise qb goes down. And nothing about guys like Orton, Campbell, Kolb, Cassle or otherwise tell me I want them as my teams backup b/c they have never shown they can.

HI ALL!! huge Bears fan from Toronto,Canada and first time poster I believe...now I don't know much about them and have not seen anyone mention it yet... but what about a Compensatory pick or 2 due to a few key loses pending on Lach's departure?

Originally Posted by Ojibway Bob

HI ALL!! huge Bears fan from Toronto,Canada and first time poster I believe...now I don't know much about them and have not seen anyone mention it yet... but what about a Compensatory pick or 2 due to a few key loses pending on Lach's departure?

Those picks don't get awarded until the following calendar year's draft.

Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox

Playing in less than a third of the D snaps last year, McClellin notched 29 combined sacks, hits and hurries. That QB disruption ratio is the best among all DE's drafted last year. Shea is a DE who had a deceptively good year at the position. He's a DE with the ability drop into coverage like a 3-4 LB, his athletic versatility is his greatest asset, but make no mistake, his greatest value to this team is as a pass rusher.

As for Washington, he isn't an awful DE prospect, but I'd just as soon grab a freak athlete like Glenn Foster late to back up multiple positions along the line.

What if we got Washington and Glenn Foster ?

Originally Posted by soulman

Well since sox took care of answering from his perspective I'll just add my two cents.

If you couldn't see the value of McClellin as a raw rookie last year you either weren't watching much or you don't know how to evaluate him. Even in college his sack totals weren't that high but he was one of the most disruptive players in the draft and that's exactly they way he played last year. The kid is more than a sack artist. He's a playmaker against both the pass and the run.

Would I like to see McClellin moved to LB. Right now no, or at least not on a permanent basis. Moving him around to create advantages for us defensively and letting him disrupt blocking schemes is what he does best so that's what you have him do. In some cases he'd be playing LB but he's not ready to be an every down LB right now.

We could draft a pass rusher somewhere later on the draft or sign an UDFA or maybe we have a couple of guys on the PS who will step it up some this year. I don't know much about later round picks. That's sox forte.

Soul I think like you that we got McClellin as a replacement for a certain sombody but not just yet.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

I did find some stuff on rookies on PFF, again I'm going w/what I can find on rookies and pass rush disruption etc etc and actually talks numbers of all rookies not just Shea.
Defensive Ends (4-3 or 3-4): Chandler Jones, NE (+10.4) and Bruce Irvin, SEA (-0.4)
Jones and Irvin maintain their spots after making the mid-season team, though they’ve both struggled in recent weeks. Jones has played through injury which has seen his production suffer, while Irvin’s play as a pass rusher had tapered off even before he was forced into every-down action that exposed his inability to stop the run. Still, Jones has been an every-down player from Day 1 for the Patriots, while Irvin has taken well to his role as a situational pass rusher, ranking seventh in the league in Pass Rush Productivity at 10.5.
Honorable Mention: Quinton Coples (NYJ)

So according to PFF, Shea was not one of the top 3 rookie DE's. I did see that he ranked 27th of 62 pass rushers based on this:

Shea McClellin, DE
Draft: First round, 19th Overall
Snaps/Usage: 369 snaps, 268 rushing the passer Notes: McClellin was thought to be more of a 3-4 outside linebacker prospect coming out of Boise State, but the Bears put him at defensive end and threw him into the mix as a sub-package pass rusher. He had moderate success as he graded at -2.8 as a pass rusher with 29 pressures on his 268 rush attempts. His 8.8 Pass Rush Productivity ranked 27th out of the top 62 qualifiers at 4-3 defensive end.

But Couples has a better PRP of 10.5 and ranked 7th in the league.

I'll keep looking around, I'm still not finding any actual numbers on hurries, hits and disruptions outside of this, and I cannot find it for all rookies. FO has nothing about this since 2010.

OK I know we hired McClellin as a De ... and Urlacher as a Safety ... but can McClellin drop into coverage, or is he the future brains of CHICAGO BEARS defense ? And sombody else drops into coverage ?

Originally Posted by Ojibway Bob

HI ALL!! huge Bears fan from Toronto,Canada and first time poster I believe...now I don't know much about them and have not seen anyone mention it yet... but what about a Compensatory pick or 2 due to a few key loses pending on Lach's departure?

Welcome aboard Ojibway Bob ! We're a bunch of goofy fucks around this board ...

all we talk about for the most time is CHICAGO BEARS. But look around ... we have forums to satisfy anyones other desires.

Second City rules !!