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    Quote Originally Posted by golfinbuddy View Post
    Trying to remember years here - would Emery have been involved in draf
    ting Brandon Albert with KC? He for sure would know his work ethic, smarts, etc. from spending time with him. If we are hot on his heels if/when he makes it to free agency, I guess we will have our answer. The last time we got a free agent tackle from KC, it worked pretty well!!

    If I had a say :), I would try to draft Jones (maybe even slide down and get some picks :)) and go after Albert or Long to shore up the LOT spot. Let Carimi/Webb duke it out for the ROT spot with loser fighting for swing OT. Slide Garza back to G, hope Louis recovers to where he was but draft a mid rounder and sign a midrange FA as a just in case. Have an all out battle royale in training camp and try to turn a weakness into a strength.......
    Welcome to the boards! (Or welcome back idk but haven't seen your name come up)

    Good post I like the idea I was on the same line of thinking there. I think this is the best scenario and it leaves is at worst (if we miss on long) with Webb and a likely FA battling at LT.

    Jones is a total robbery if we can get him at 20 IMO and if we can net a trade down pick and nab him emery should be charged with a felony lol

    Your right tho a few moves for quality and insurance and we could be sitting pretty up front...err maybe not pretty per say (olinemen dont usually win padgengs) but damn talented!

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    Ok so you think BPA in each round what if every BPA in each round for us is a RB, you're saying draft them all.

    BPA only works when 1. It's a position you need 2. If someone that good drops to you. I would hope that every GM goes for the BPA when it comes time for them to pick.

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    BPA every round.

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    Regarding BPA, I figure that there are tier-levels of talent after the initial picks of the draft. It's usually not a situation where 1 single player is clearly the "only guy" as the BPA. It's so subjective too. We may have a guy we think is the BPA, but that guy may not be who Emery views as the BPA. If there are a few guys on an equal tier-level when it comes to our pick, Emery can pick the guy that most meets our needs. That, IMHO, is still taking the BPA - but also meeting a team need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ-30 View Post
    Ok so you think BPA in each round what if every BPA in each round for us is a RB, you're saying draft them all.

    BPA only works when 1. It's a position you need 2. If someone that good drops to you. I would hope that every GM goes for the BPA when it comes time for them to pick.
    It's almost trite and cliche to say "just go straight bpa every round". Let's be honest, no team truly does that in the purest sense. Maybe for the latter rounds yes when you are picking players who probably aren't going to start or see the field much anyway for a while. But high up, in say rounds 1 & 2, there no doubt that teams look to fill immediate or near-future needs at certain positions. Unless the roster is already completely stacked (what a luxury to have), they don't draft gnerally draft players in positions where their depth chart is already thick and young. Its a bit subjective but I would say they draft "bpa for them" high up rather than purely-best-available.

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    I go with BPA for the rounds we need. If it's OL, LB, TE or the best WR who falls to us, take him

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH View Post
    I go with BPA for the rounds we need. If it's OL, LB, TE or the bes
    t WR who falls to us, take him
    I say we take jones regardless if he's there or other OL if not. Rd 2 I say best MLB and in 4 I would like another OL

    Strictly BPA for all positions is only viable in rounds 6/7 IMO before that you need to adress needs

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    Is it true that 3 Texans OL are going to the PRO BOWl ??

    No way not from one team !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackiejokeman View Post
    Is it true that 3 Texans OL are going to the PRO BOWl ??

    No way not from one team !
    And there in the playoffs lol big suprise

    Draft Barret Jones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzblue View Post
    And there in the playoffs lol big suprise

    Draft Barret Jones.
    Sign Long.
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    Agree with both.

    Check out this article by Briggs. LONG READ about HC.

    Good article by Brad Biggs on McCoy.

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    ENGLEWOOD, Colo. — Phil Emery said the next coach of the Bears needs to be adaptable to win with the personnel available and Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy has done that with disparate parts such as Peyton Manning and Tim Tebow.

    A year after the Broncos reached the playoffs and upset the Steelers with Tebow at the helm, they cruised to the No. 1 seed in the AFC and a first-round bye. Emery will interview McCoy here on Sunday as he crisscrosses the country in search of the 14th coach in Bears history.

    McCoy also is expected to interview with the Bills and Cardinals on Saturday and Eagles on Sunday in a busy two days. He was a finalist for the Dolphins job last year and some projected it was his before it went to Joe Philbin.

    "Until you get that job, don't listen to anybody," McCoy said Thursday after Broncos practice. "Seriously. Everyone had me penciled in going to Miami last year and it was a done deal, 'Don't get on a flight, it's your job,' and this and that.

    "It's a learning experience and every organization, every owner is different so they are looking for something different. You just have to be yourself. That is the No. 1 thing."

    It will be a feeling out process for him as he learns about the teams.

    "It's an open conversation," McCoy said. "It's not about just taking any job. That's not my goal. You have to make sure when you make the next step that it's the right one. I have plenty of questions to ask."

    The Broncos finished fourth in the NFL in total offense (397.9 yards per game) and were second in scoring (30.1 points) as McCoy meshed quickly with Manning. It's really the third offense the Broncos have run in two seasons as the passing scheme for Kyle Orton was scrapped after five games in 2011 when Tebow was promoted. The Broncos were 20th in the league in rushing at the time the change was made and finished No. 1 with a franchise-record 2,632 yards on the ground.

    Orton and wide receiver Brandon Lloyd, both former Bears, had career years in 2010 under McCoy. This year, McCoy has blended passing game concepts Manning brought from the Colts with running game material that is his own.

    "It's really important to find the person who has the knowledge and feel to make things fit with the talent they have," Emery said Tuesday. "That's the mark of excellence that I'm looking for. Somebody who has adapted to the role or has the flexibility and the skill set to make the players that we have fit toward making a run for the championship."

    McCoy, 40, has a brief history with Jay Cutler as Josh McDaniels hired him as offensive coordinator in 2009 before the quarterback was traded to the Bears. It's not believed the falling out Cutler had with McDaniels involved McCoy.

    Manning, who pretty much worked with the same offensive coaches for nearly his entire run with the Colts, highly recommends McCoy.

    "He is ready," Manning said. "He has paid his dues. Mike is a good leader."

    Manning had an adjustment period and he gives credit to McCoy for what he calls the team's "hybrid" offense.

    "I knew it was going to take some time with any coach because I had been in one system and really kind of had one coach for the majority of my career," Manning said. "He has been incredibly supportive and patient with me.

    "We spent a lot of hours together, early mornings, late nights, trying to get our plan in place. There is no substitute for a work ethic and Mike certainly has that. The more time we spent together, there is certainly a bond there. He has been a really big resource for me."

    The Bears are replacing coach Lovie Smith who was scheme-driven defensively. Emery says he is considering coaches from all backgrounds but so far more offensive names have surfaced and he's driven to improve Cutler and the offense.

    Every coach talks about matching their plans with the strengths of their players and McCoy did it in 2011. After the Lions blew out the Broncos 45-10 in Week 5, coach John Fox ordered Tebow promoted and a read-option offense highlighted.

    "That's our job to take advantage of your talent," McCoy said. "That is the No. 1 job I have here to make sure that we evaluate the guys properly during the offseason and training camp and find out what we do best as an offense. If someone goes down, someone comes up and we have to make adjustments as a coaching staff and as players?"

    The Broncos had some material in their playbook for Tebow already, but it was a massive transformation in midseason. Tebow completed only 46.2 percent of his passes but the Broncos averaged more than 190 yards rushing per game with him starting.

    "It's impressive because of how much work (McCoy) had to do," wide receiver Eric Decker said. "To be able to switch gears from more of a passing offense to a read-option type run offense … the biggest thing is he is very unselfish. He takes whatever coaches have to say, whatever players have to say. He's able to put his ego aside and make sure we have the best game plan."

    Said left guard Zane Beadles: "He's a guy who really can mold something around the guys he has."

    McCoy had a reputation of working well with players in Carolina too where he was a Panthers assistant for nine seasons from 2000 to 2008, slowly working his way up to passing game coordinator. When McCoy left for the Broncos in 2009, longtime Panthers quarterback Jake Delhomme made the departure easier for him. McCoy's daughter Olivia, 9 at the time, was nervous about a big move and Delhomme had a conversation with her that made the exit smoother for the family, McCoy told the Charlotte Observer. It's a sign of how he forges relationships with his players.

    "As a head coach, the biggest thing is facilitating roles and responsibilities and again it goes with the ego thing, he would be able to let his coordinators do their jobs but oversee it," Decker said. "For my three years with him, he's very organized. He has a plan. He's always structured. He's a motivator. He's also just a good guy.

    "Very personable and you can have a conversation with him, you can talk about things other than football so you build that relationship, you build that trust and want to play hard for him."

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    Good read thanks for the post, but I've concidered McCoy all along as the front runner, I think emery is covering the bases though and making sure no one is overlooked

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