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Paper: Mike Shanahan in talks to become Redskins head coach

Paper: Mike Shanahan in talks to become Redskins head coach


The Redskins may be pursuing a new head coach, even though they still have a head coach in place.

The Denver Post reported on Thursday night that former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan is in talks with the Redskins to become their next coach. The paper cited unnamed NFL insiders.

The Redskins hired Bruce Allen as GM on Thursday, hours after former personnel chief Vinny Cerrato resigned. Current head coach Jim Zorn remained in place and continued to prepare the team for its game against the Giants on Monday night.

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Shanahan was fired from the Broncos last December after winning two Super Bowls in 14 seasons there. He met with the Bills last month to discuss their open coaching position. -- Sean Leahy
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I read this yesterday as well.

This means the Bears cannot be slow out of the gate. They need to be decisive in making a coaching change. The good coaches are going to go quick and we are already hearing that 2 of them Shannahan and Holmgren may soon be off the market.
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I read this yesterday as well.

This means the Bears cannot be slow out of the gate. They need to be decisive in making a coaching change. The good coaches are going to go quick and we are already hearing that 2 of them Shannahan and Holmgren may soon be off the market.
holmgren seems doesn't want to coach, just be a GM, which i
do no want him for, with a bad track record as a GM, no thanks!

TIMELINE: HOLMGREN AS GM (1999-2002)
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Jan. 8, 1999 – Mike Holmgren is hired as Seahawks’ coach, general manager and executive vice president of football operations. Team president Bob Whitsitt and vice president Randy Mueller had been reluctant to bestow a coach with total control over personnel, but owner Paul Allen was willing to do what it took to land Holmgren.

Feb. 11, 1999 – Warren Moon is released. Holmgren decides to go with youth at the most important position.

April 17, 1999 – Holmgren trades 17th choice in NFL draft to New England for 20th, 82nd and 191st choices. Pats select Boston College C Damien Woody. Holmgren then trades 20th choice to Dallas for 22nd and 140th choices. At the urging of defensive coordinator Fritz Shurmur, Holmgren selects Saginaw Valley (Mich.) State DE Lamar King with 22nd choice. The 82nd choice is used on Auburn WR Karsten Bailey. The 140th choice is used on Penn State LT Floyd Wedderburn. The 191st choice winds up being part of a trade that lands Tennessee CB Steve Johnson, who is quickly released.

June 24, 1999 – WR James McKnight is traded to Dallas for third-round choice in 2000. The trade pays off when Holmgren uses the choice from Dallas to select Florida WR Darrell Jackson.

July 31, 1999 – Contract disputes cause King and WR Joey Galloway to miss the opening of Holmgren’s inaugural training camp.

Aug. 12, 1999 – Three-time Pro Bowl DE Michael Sinclair receives a $6 million signing bonus as part of seven-year, $35 million extension. Whitsitt had promised a long-term deal long before Holmgren arrived.

Aug. 22, 1999 – Contract talks between Galloway and the Seahawks are called off amid much acrimony and gamesmanship.

Aug. 30, 1999 – Defensive coordinator Fritz Shurmur loses three-month battle with cancer. Jim Lind takes over duties as defensive coordinator.

Jan. 12, 2000 – Veteran defensive coordinator Steve Sidwell is hired to replace interim coordinator Jim Lind, whose defense led the NFL in interceptions but ranked 23rd in yards allowed.

Jan. 25, 2000 – Mueller leaves for New Orleans, becoming Saints’ general manager while ridding the Seahawks of one of their last links to early days in Seattle.

Jan. 28, 2000 – Ted Thompson is hired from Green Bay to replace Mueller.

Feb. 12, 2000 – Galloway is traded to Dallas for first-round choices in 2000 and 2001. The first of those choices lands Alabama RB Shaun Alexander. The second choice will be used to trade down in the first round, with Seattle ultimately netting North Carolina State WR Koren Robinson, Auburn FB Heath Evans and Princeton OT Dennis Norman.

Feb. 12, 2000 – DE Phillip Daniels signs a lucrative free-agent contract with Chicago, depriving the Seahawks of their best all-around DL. Holmgren would later refer to letting Daniels get away as a “rookie mistake.” The defensive line is set back at least two years.

Feb. 21, 2000 – Free-agent S Reggie Tongue is signed away from Kansas City and receives a $3.5 million bonus. Tongue winds up being benched after his first six games in Seattle, but he bounces back with a solid season in 2001 and leads the team with five interceptions in 2002.

March 1, 2000 - Veteran S Darryl Williams is released.

March 17, 2000 – Free-agent C Robbie Tobeck is signed to a salary-cap friendly deal. Tobeck promptly suffers freak knee injury, but recovers in time for the 2001 season and becomes a team leader.

April 14, 2000 – RB Ahman Green is traded to Green Bay for CB Fred Vinson. Holmgren was fed up with Green’s fumbling and nearly released the talented runner before aides convinced him to work a trade with his former team. The trade backfires famously when Vinson suffers career-ending knee injuries while Green leads Packers’ revival.

April 15, 2000 – DT Sam Adams signs with Baltimore, depriving the Seahawks of their most talented DL. Holmgren wasn’t a big fan of Adams, but the Ravens get last laugh when Adams becomes Pro Bowl performer and Super Bowl winner.

April 15, 2000 – Alexander and Wisconsin OT Chris McIntosh are drafted in the first round.

April 28, 2000 - John Schneider leaves the Kansas City Chiefs to become Seattle’s director of player personnel.

May 10, 2000 - Scot McCloughan leaves job as area college scout for Green Bay Packers to become Seattle’s director of college scouting.

June 19, 2000 - Veteran MLB George Koonce is signed in free agency and becomes a starter for one of the NFL’s worst defenses.

July 19, 2000 - Veteran WR Mike Pritchard is released.

July 26, 2000 - Once-promising MLB DeShone Myles is placed on injured reserve, all but ending his career.

August 20, 2000 - Fred Vinson, the CB acquired in the Ahman Green trade, is placed on injured reserve.

August 27, 2000 - Record-setting PK Todd Peterson is released in favor of rookie Kris Heppner.

August 28, 2000 - Veteran backup QB Glenn Foley is released shortly after tossing six interceptions during an exhibition game.

Sept. 26, 2000 - Heppner is released after struggling. Former WSU PK Rian Lindell is signed to replace him.

Nov. 28, 2000 - Veteran CB Chris Canty is released.

March 1, 2001 - Veteran WRs Sean Dawkins and Derrick Mayes are released.

March 2, 2001 – QB Matt Hasselbeck and the 17th choice in 2001 draft acquired from Green Bay in exchange for the 10th and 72nd choices in the 2001 draft. Green Bay uses the 10th choice to select Florida State DE Jamal Reynolds and the 72nd choice to select Oklahoma LB Torrance Marshall. Holmgren uses the 17th choice for Michigan LG Steve Hutchinson.

March 3, 2001 – Former Minnesota Vikings DT John Randle is signed to a five-year, $25 million deal in free agency. Skeptics call the move risky, but Randle responds with an 11-sack season and seventh berth in Pro Bowl. In 2002, a knee injury can’t stop Randle from leading the team in sacks for a second straight season.

March 5, 2001 – Veteran S Jay Bellamy signs with New Orleans.

March 8, 2001 – Eight-time Pro Bowl DT Cortez Kennedy is released, ending his career.

March 8, 2001 – QB Jon Kitna signs a free-agent contract with Cincinnati. The Bengals show improvement in 2001, but Kitna becomes the only AFC starter with a lower passer rating than Hasselbeck that season.

March 9, 2001 – New England DT Chad Eaton is signed to a cap-friendly deal in free agency. The move pays off handsomely in 2001 when Eaton helps restore the run defense to respectability.

March 12, 2001 – Veteran LG Pete Kendall signs a lucrative free-agent contract with Arizona. Holmgren never made serious attempt to re-sign the former No. 1 choice.

March 23, 2001 – Legendary San Francisco WR Jerry Rice visits Seahawks headquarters after being granted permission to pursue trade opportunities.

April 9, 2001 – Pittsburgh LB Levon Kirkland is signed to three-year contract in free agency. Like Randle, Kirkland becomes a leader in locker room and an integral part of an improved run defense.

April 12, 2001 – Tennessee S Marcus Robertson is signed to a three-year contract in free agency. Robertson suffers a hamstring injury and is limited for much of season.

April 21, 2001 – Koren Robinson and Steve Hutchinson are chosen in the first round of a Seattle draft that also nets CB Ken Lucas, S Curtis Fuller and WR Alex Bannister.

June 5, 2001 – Rice signs with Oakland.

June 7, 2001 – Vinson is released, putting the finishing touches on one of the most lopsided trades in NFL history.

Aug. 3, 2001 - Veteran QB Trent Dilfer is signed as insurance for Hasselbeck.

Aug. 22, 2001 - Hasselbeck signs an incentive-laden contract worth as much as $22.6 million.

Aug. 29, 2001 – Having missed out in the Rice sweepstakes, Holmgren settles for veteran WR Bobby Engram, who had been released by Chicago. Engram becomes a clutch third-down option and a mentor for a young receiving corps.

Sept. 2, 2001 - Seahawks release WR Karsten Bailey, a third-round choice in 1999. Bailey caught six passes in two seasons.

Sept. 7, 2001 - Holmgren elevates Dilfer into the No. 2 role, ahead of Brock Huard.

Feb. 20, 2002 - After failing to reach a contract agreement with Pro Bowl LT Walter Jones, Seattle designates him as their franchise player. Jones refuses to sign the accompanying one-year, $4.92 million offer, then skips minicamps and training camp as the dispute wears on.

Feb. 22, 2002 - Former Pro Bowl DE Michael Sinclair is released after three disappointing seasons.

March 1, 2002 - Holmgren commits to Dilfer as his starter for 2002, and the sides agree on an incentive-laden contract.

April 10, 2002 - Veteran CB Doug Evans, a free agent from Carolina, is signed to bolster Seattle’s weak pass defense.

April 16, 2002 - Veteran DL Brandon Mitchell, a free agent from New England, is signed to provide depth.

April 19, 2002 - Backup QB Brock Huard is traded to Indianapolis for a fourth-round pick that becomes promising DT Rocky Bernard.

April 20, 2002 - Seattle selects Washington TE Jerramy Stevens in the first round of the draft after trading down from 20th to 28th. UNLV DE Anton Palepoi and Oregon RB Maurice Morris are chosen in the second round.

April 22, 2002 - Veteran DE Matt LaBounty is released.

May 21, 2002 - Free-agent QB Ryan Leaf is signed to a one-year contract after being released by Dallas. Leaf retires from football during training camp.

June 21, 2002 - CB Ike Charlton, a disappointing second-round choice in 1999, is traded to Jacksonville for a conditional draft choice.

July 12, 2002 - Veteran MLB Levon Kirkland is released after failing to fulfill his end of an agreement to lose weight. The move backfires when Seattle struggles against the run and Kirkland becomes an important part of Philadelphia’s formidable defense.

August 19, 2002 - Veteran QB Mark Rypien is signed after Dilfer suffers a knee injury.

August 27, 2002 - Veteran RT Jerry Wunsch is signed to provide depth on the line after Seattle fails to reach an agreement with franchise LT Walter Jones, who misses the first two games during a contract dispute.

Sept. 1, 2002 - Special-teams ace Fabien Bownes is released in part because Alex Bannister, a fifth-round pick in 2000, has developed into an oustanding player on special teams.

Sept. 2, 2002 - Rypien is released in favor of former CFL passer Dave Dickenson, who is claimed off waivers from San Diego. Dickenson is released after three weeks.

Sept. 3, 2002 - The Seahawks break off contract talks with franchise player Walter Jones, who promptly signs a one-year offer and rejoins the team for its third game.

Oct. 29, 2002 - Veteran QB Jeff George is signed as insurance after Dilfer is placed on injured reserve with a torn Achilles’ tendon.

Nov. 21, 2002 - OT Chris Terry is claimed off waivers from Carolina, providing instant stability to the right side of the line.

Dec. 26, 2002 - Against the backdrop of a 6-9 record, Holmgren meets with Whitsitt three days before the final game of the season. They continue ongoing discussions about Holmgren’s future, amid speculation that a change could be forthcoming. The Seahawks want him to step aside as GM, something Holmgren isn’t sure he’ll agree to do.

Dec. 29, 2002 - The Seahawks score 21 fourth-quarter points to force overtime against San Diego, then beat the Chargers on their way to a franchise-record 591 total yards. Hasselbeck breaks his own franchise record for passing yards in a game. Seattle’s pass offense finishes the season ranked third in the NFL. The more Holmgren thinks about things, the more he wants to stick around.

Dec. 30, 2002 - Holmgren tells players and coaches he might be willing to step aside as GM, but his future with the team remains in question.

Dec. 31, 2002 - With a four-year record of 31-33 and a defense that ranked last against the run in 2002, Holmgren agrees to remain coach while renouncing his titles as GM and executive vice president. Holmgren also fires his defensive coaching staff. Whitsitt begins the search for a new GM.
“I think the biggest title you can have is Super Bowl champion,” Holmgren explains. “When I thought long and hard about that and what’s important to me, (wife) Kathy, this football team and this organization, the titles take a back seat, they really do.
“It’s about coming together, winning, having fun doing it and getting to the Super Bowl.”

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Let's get some kind of contact going with Cowher. I have a feeling if we don't do something before January, at least approach him with some kind of offer that won't be acted upon until the conclusion of the season, we're stuck with Lovie or an up-and-comer.
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looks like redskins going to take their time also..



By Jason Reid
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 18, 2009


With the introduction of Bruce Allen as the Redskins' new executive vice president and general manager Thursday, attention immediately shifted to the status of Jim Zorn and who might replace him if Washington decides to hire a new head coach.

While there are a number of high-profile candidates available for any coaching vacancy -- among them Super Bowl winners Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and Bill Cowher -- most speculation at Redskins Park centered on Mike Shanahan, who led the Denver Broncos to two NFL championships and who has been mentioned has a potential successor to Zorn for weeks.

Though several people both inside and outside the Redskins organization spoke about Shanahan as the leading candidate, no one in position to know -- namely, owner Daniel Snyder and Allen -- said so on Thursday. Allen gave no indication how he would run a potential coaching search, and Snyder said that when Allen "makes a decision, or the club makes a decision, it's a Redskins decision."

Not surprisingly, Zorn's status and a possible coaching change were not among the subjects Allen was eager to discuss. "I just met Jim," Allen said in the facility's auditorium. "We're going to see how we can beat the New York Giants [on Monday night]. There'll be plenty of time after the season" to deal with the coaching situation.

Attempts to contact Shanahan's attorney Thursday were unsuccessful. Shanahan, who said he plans to coach again next season, has had discussions in recent weeks with the Buffalo Bills.

A two-time Super Bowl winner, Shanahan has the type of credentials Snyder would seek in his effort to restore fan confidence after a season in which the Redskins will miss the playoffs for the eighth time during Snyder's 11 seasons as owner.

"What I'm going to do is work as hard as I possibly can," Zorn said. "Not to try to save my job, but to continue to work the way we're working to bring a winner to this program. That's really what I set out to do right from the beginning. And then, I hope Bruce will observe. It'll truly be up to him because of the position he's in."

The hiring of Allen, whose father, George, led the Redskins to a Super Bowl, was Snyder's first step in his attempt to make over the organization's image. Bringing in Shanahan, possibly with the title of president and coach, would be another significant step in the process.


Obviously, Bruce has got the authority," Snyder said.
As an executive with the Oakland Raiders and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Allen worked with Gruden, another Super Bowl-winning coach. The Buccaneers fired Allen and Gruden at the end of the 2008 season after the team struggled down the stretch and failed to qualify for the postseason.

Hired as an analyst for ESPN's "Monday Night Football," Gruden agreed on Nov. 16 to what the network described as a "multiyear" contract, which seemed to indicate Gruden would be out of the mix for upcoming coaching openings. Gruden reportedly does not have an out clause in his ESPN contract, and the network expects "to have Jon on 'Monday Night Football' for many years with the long-term commitment he has made to ESPN," spokesman Bill Hofheimer said.

"The coach is the leader of the team, is the leader of the organization throughout sports," Allen said. "The Dodgers are better when they got a better manager. Period."
Gruden declined a request to comment about whether he would be interested in coaching the Redskins, but in a statement, he praised the Redskins for hiring Allen.

"Bruce Allen is a great football mind and an even better person," Gruden's statement read. "His background and understanding of the Washington Redskins' tradition will be a huge asset to the Redskins. He is a leader and a great fit for this job. He's a big reason why I had any success in coaching. I'm really happy for him and I wish him the best."
Internally, secondary coach Jerry Gray could be a long-shot possibility. Gray, who has served as a defensive coordinator, is widely respected in the organization. He recently was a finalist for the head coaching position at the University of Memphis and was expected to serve as the Redskins' interim coach if Snyder fired Zorn before season's end.
"When the time is right, it'll happen," Gray said recently. "What you have to do is just focus on doing your job and the things you need to do, so that when the opportunity comes, you're ready."

Two other Super Bowl-winning coaches -- Holmgren and Cowher -- have been mentioned for potential openings around the NFL. Holmgren spoke this week about the possibility of serving in an administrative capacity with the Cleveland Browns, and he could be a contender to serve as president of his former team, the Seattle Seahawks. Cowher, who coached the Pittsburgh Steelers, likely will not end up with the Redskins, a source close to Cowher said.

Another possibility is that Allen, after evaluating Zorn and his staff over the next three weeks, will decide to retain Zorn, who is under contract in 2010. Zorn, however, has all but been fired, people within the Redskins organization said.

Snyder has expressed frustration within the organization about Zorn's performance and that of the offensive staff, according to the sources. In addition to Zorn, other coaches on the staff are under contract for next season, but the expectation is that Zorn and most of his staff would be fired even if the team won its final three games.
For his part, Zorn has remained optimistic.

"I won't be able to control that issue except by winning and showing my competency," he said. "And then it will be to the observations, the skills that Bruce has. We'll just kind of leave that up to him. I wouldn't speculate on what is going to happen over the next three weeks except that I know that Bruce will be working very hard to see the climate, to see all of the things that he's looking for, all of those elements that he's looking for in our football program."
Staff writers Rick Maese and Barry Svrluga contributed to this report.

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zorn lost his team from late last season.


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Jaworski: Gruden 'pushes everybody to be better'


Time will tell how many changes Bruce Allen thinks are required at Redskins Park, but one of the biggest he'll need to make surrounds the head coaching position. If Jim Zorn isn't the answer, who is?

Most of the speculation, surrounds Mike Shanahan, but Jon Gruden's name has been in the mix, particularly because he coached under Allen in Oakland and Tampa Bay.

Not surprisingly, Gruden's name came up earlier today in a conversation with Ron Jaworski, the veteran ESPN analyst who sits next to Gruden each week in the "Monday Night Football" booth.

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"He's phenomenal," Jaworski said of Gruden. "I really, really enjoy working with him. He has that coaching mentality. He challenges everybody. He pushes everybody to be better. It's just great."

Coaching mentality, eh? So will he get back in coaching?

Jaworski didn't want to speculate about someone else's future, but other sources around ESPN say they'd be surprised if Gruden tried to get out of his contract and returned to coaching so soon after signing a lucrative contract extension.

Jaworski did acknowledge -- by way of a compliment, not a guess about Gruden's immediate future -- that Gruden is the type of man who does seem to have coaching in his blood.

"I was thrilled when he agreed to stay. I think he's enjoying this, and we're having fun. He's said it," Jaworski said. "Most people don't realize how hard these guys work, the hours they put in. He's been coaching 26 years out of his life. He's finally getting a chance to do some of the things he didn't have time for before."

"Jon's a coach. He loves being out there, loves the leadership position. But I do know that he's enjoying this part of his life."

Gruden and Allen are friends, and Jaworski said that relationship seems to speak highly of Allen.
"I haven't been around [Allen] the same way, but as far as work ethic, from what Jon tells me, he just works his tail off," Jaworski said. "Cares tremendously about his job and being successful."
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Really we have the Bills, Redskins, Browns already getting into a UNIQUE coaching narket that has a ton of proven winning coaches.

The Bears need to get involved as soon as possible so that they do not miss out on a once in a decade type talent pool.

The Redskins will get someone because they spend.

The Browns will get Holmgren because he can be the GM.
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Really we have the Bills, Redskins, Browns already getting into a UNIQUE coaching narket that has a ton of proven winning coaches.

The Bears need to get involved as soon as possible so that they do not miss out on a once in a decade type talent pool.

The Redskins will get someone because they spend.

The Browns will get Holmgren because he can be the GM.
remind the board how the bills and redskins and browns have done so far.. pretty sure they have accomplsihed the exact same as bears.. Zero
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remind the board how the bills and redskins and browns have done so far.. pretty sure they have accomplsihed the exact same as bears.. Zero
In terms of a coaching change they have done way more then the Bears.

-They have confirmed they are looking for change.

-They have made a phone call.
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