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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    I wouldn't Ric. AEG is owned by Phil Anschutz and he rarely if ever loses money on any deal he's involved in. The guy is a "rainmaker".
    Anshutz a pretty shaddy guy at time also( then again what billionao\ire doesn't have skeleton's on his closet?).. his stock flipping of qwets's IPO and moving all the land from qwest communiction and union railroad back to him and holding the railroad rights they built the fiber network on to guranteed his family rent pretty shady,imo.. Know hes he hd some bad legal problem in the oil drilling side of his empire also..

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplejokr View Post
    Exactly. AEG has no idea what they are doing....

    It is one thing to bash the LA fans while lacking a single iota of evidence generated in the last decade but to bash AEG really demonstrates how little you know about them. To quote a line from Lilo & Stitch, "Here! Educate yourself!

    How can I have any evidence of their lack of interest in the NFL since they haven't had a team in the last decade? All I can go on is the fact that on every occassion you have had an NFL team they have left for less green pastures...LESS GREEN PASTURES, ie not a bigger media market! It's one thing for a team to move from Minny to LA; idea at least seems reasonable on the surface; but to move from LA to Oakland?!?!?! You know their is something wrong w/your city when you lose a proven winner like the NFL to Oakland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    Anshutz a pretty shaddy guy at time also( then again what billionao\ire doesn't have skeleton's on his closet?).. his stock flipping of qwets's IPO and moving all the land from qwest communiction and union railroad back to him and holding the railroad rights they built the fiber network on to guranteed his family rent pretty shady,imo.. Know hes he hd some bad legal problem in the oil drilling side of his empire also..
    All well known around these parts but that's beside the point. The guy makes money no matter how shady he may be about doing it. He's a "Rainmaker" and he'll still have to pass NFL muster if he hopes to build a stadium and acquire a team but I wouldn't put it past him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    How can I have any evidence of their lack of interest in the NFL since they haven't had a team in the last decade?
    Absolutely. I completely agree.

    You have no relevant evidence.

    I would comment on the rest of your post but again, you have no relevant evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    All well known around these parts but that's beside the point. The guy makes money no matter how shady he may be about doing it. He's a "Rainmaker" and he'll still have to pass NFL muster if he hopes to build a stadium and acquire a team but I wouldn't put it past him.
    There are two billionaires in LA that can bring an NFL team here that would never surprise me and Anschutz is one of them. The other is Eli Broad. And both men have been mentioned in local dealings with the NFL. The only thing holding any deal back is BOTH men will insist on some form of ownership in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    All well known around these parts but that's beside the point. The guy makes money no matter how shady he may be about doing it. He's a "Rainmaker" and he'll still have to pass NFL muster if he hopes to build a stadium and acquire a team but I wouldn't put it past him.
    no doubt, just pointing out like most "rainmakers" he is no saint and has had many shady deals, that while he "made it rain", also screwed others and pretty shady( the native americans have quite a different view of him in wyoming and colorado). and one day i'll have to tell you some very interesting stories on the Qwest IPO and how it was shopped around wall street : )

    Denver-Based Qwest's Executive Named Greediest in America by Fortune Magazine.


    By Mark P. Couch, The Denver Post Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News

    Aug. 18--Philip Anschutz, Denver's richest man, is a long way from legal prosecution in Qwest's fall from grace, but the glare of publicity may be punishment enough for the intensely private billionaire, associates said last week.

    But last week, the publication branded him as the greediest executive in America for selling $1.57 billion worth of Qwest stock before the share price collapsed. Anschutz topped a list that included the disgraced Gary Winnick, founder of bankrupt Global Crossing, and Denver's own John Malone, who cashed out of AT&T before it tumbled.

    "For the ordinary investor, it is nearly impossible to look at this list and not feel ripped off," the article said. "In some cases, insiders clearly cheated the investment community to realize their gains -- by ginning up revenue numbers that have turned out to be phony." Anschutz's stunning reversal of fortune shoved the man who prefers to work behind the scenes into the headlines of the hottest story in corporate America -- the accounting meltdowns that masked massive profit-taking by top executives.

    But don't expect the elusive billionaire to give speeches while he's on center stage. Anschutz hasn't granted an interview in decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purplejokr View Post
    There are two billionaires in LA that can bring an NFL team here that would never surprise me and Anschutz is one of them. The other is Eli Broad. And both men have been mentioned in local dealings with the NFL. The only thing holding any deal back is BOTH men will insist on some form of ownership in the team.
    anshultz a colorado, not LA billionaire.. despite having some LA holdings..

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplejokr View Post
    Absolutely. I completely agree.

    You have no relevant evidence.

    I would comment on the rest of your post but again, you have no relevant evidence.
    Other then past evidence that every NFL team that comes to LA leaves; but ya other then that. Get over yourself, It'll be funny to bring these back to light when the Vikes and Charges bail like the other teams have though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplejokr View Post
    There are two billionaires in LA that can bring an NFL team here that would never surprise me and Anschutz is one of them. The other is Eli Broad. And both men have been mentioned in local dealings with the NFL. The only thing holding any deal back is BOTH men will insist on some form of ownership in the team.
    Eli Broad is no saint either but to me his history is a bit cleaner than Phil Anschutz's. I brokered through SunAmerica Securites for many years which is one his many other ventures aside from his home building empire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    no doubt, just pointing out like most "rainmakers" he is no saint and has had many shady deals, that while he "made it rain", also screwed others and pretty shady( the native americans have quite a different view of him in wyoming and colorado). and one day i'll have to tell you some very interesting stories on the Qwest IPO and how it was shopped around wall street : )
    Well the true "Rainmakers" of the 30's dust bowl days were pretty shady hustlers too. They were in business to take $$$, not necessarily to make rain. I'd like to hear the Wall Street story on the IPO though.
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