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Originally Posted by
JD67
Ahh, the familiar feeling of having Orton as QB. Moral victories only get you moral rings. Chicago fans can tell you plenty about Orton's wonderful leadership in moral victories, which is why Cutler has been welcomed.
Yeah I love Orton's moral victories. He has a 30/17 W/L record much better than Jay's 6 games below .500 W/L record.
You know what a wise man once said about franchise QB's? He said if you have a franchise QB you pretty much are guaranteed a spot in the playoffs before the season starts....
Now answer me this. How can you be a franchise QB when you haven't had a record above .500 since High School?
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Originally Posted by
Darth Hater
Why are you even here fag?

You were right about Cutler all along!
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Originally Posted by
Mikey
You were right about Cutler all along!
That he has talent? Do actually think Orton would do better behind our O-line? If so, then I think you should just hold your head under water and let nature take it's course, hell, you should do that anyways.
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Originally Posted by
Darth Hater
That he has talent? Do actually think Orton would do better behind our O-line? If so, then I think you should just hold your head under water and let nature take it's course, hell, you should do that anyways.
Orton's tackles last year were worse than what Cutler has this year.
John St. Clair and John Tait < Orlando Pace and Chris Williams.
If you look at Orton's stats from last year they were better than Jay's stats this year even though Orton was playing injured for half the season. I know he threw more TD's than INT's.
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Originally Posted by
Butka
Never ever ever ever ever put Kyle Orton in the same class as Peyton Manning.
Yes, Manning doesn't drink Cheap Whiskey
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Originally Posted by
The Benjamin
There are the top shelf QBs, such as: Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Brett Favre *pukes*
Then the shelf of QBs who are on the shelf just below the elite. QBs like: Kurt Warner (some could say he belongs on the elite shelf), Donovan McNabb, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger
Notice how Orton isnt on either list? Nor is Jay Cutlet though. Calling Orton a titan or an Elite QB is a direct slap in the face to those QBs.
BTW, saying Orton is better than Brady because he beat Brady's team earlier this year means that Flacco, Roethlisberger, Campbell and Rivers are better than Orton.
I think it is time to add Rivers in the elite category
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Originally Posted by
Mikey
Orton's tackles last year were worse than what Cutler has this year.
John St. Clair and John Tait < Orlando Pace and Chris Williams.
If you look at Orton's stats from last year they were better than Jay's stats this year even though Orton was playing injured for half the season. I know he threw more TD's than INT's.
I will disagree with this Tait is 10x better than Pace is/was this year. 5 years ago Pace was a top tackle, now not so much.
Williams, is learning on the fly. Is he better? I would state right now at best he is equal to what tait was last year.
You also have to look at LG as well. jay last year had confendece in his OL and WR.. this year, not so much and who can blame him?
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Originally Posted by
The Benjamin
There are the top shelf QBs, such as: Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Brett Favre *pukes*
Then the shelf of QBs who are on the shelf just below the elite. QBs like: Kurt Warner (some could say he belongs on the elite shelf), Donovan McNabb, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger
Notice how Orton isnt on either list? Nor is Jay Cutlet though. Calling Orton a titan or an Elite QB is a direct slap in the face to those QBs.
BTW, saying Orton is better than Brady because he beat Brady's team earlier this year means that Flacco, Roethlisberger, Campbell and Rivers are better than Orton.
But Rivers is better than Orton...
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Originally Posted by
Mikey
Orton's tackles last year were worse than what Cutler has this year.
John St. Clair and John Tait < Orlando Pace and Chris Williams.
If you look at Orton's stats from last year they were better than Jay's stats this year even though Orton was playing injured for half the season. I know he threw more TD's than INT's.
5 guys make an offensive line, not two. Our interior 3 are possibly the worst in the league in pass pro. And if tackle play is better, it's not by much. It's clear our offensive line is even worse this season than last.