Thread: Suck it Favre

Originally Posted by tuluse

Favre calling the Lions to give them information on the Packer's offense was the funniest story line in the NFL last year.

I think the funniest stories are about favre making the pro-bowl with 22 ints and having one of his classic meltdowns during important games. Usually he has them during playoff games but this year he sucked so much the jets did not make the playoffs.

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

Why would you name your kid after favre?

Well the kind of person who would do such a thing probably shouldn't even be having kids in the first place.

I guess someone has to live in Wisconsin though.

as far as Favre hating playing under Mangini hows this

FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Sunday Scoops: Glazer's latest coaching update

FAVRE'S FUTURE — It's that time of the year again, when the questions regarding Brett Favre's future begin to pop up daily.

The fine folks at FOX have asked me to throw myself into Favre mode once again and break down what the evidence points to. Favre earlier in the week indicated he would address his future possibly next week, but admitted his shoulder will play a role in his decision-making process. However, his shoulder is just one of the reasons most of those polled on the Jets believe this really is finally it for Favre.

The other reason? Happiness, or lack thereof. According to several people close to Favre, the legendary quarterback has not enjoyed many aspects of playing for the tough Eric Mangini. According to the sources, there are several areas that have not sat well with Favre including team meetings, quizzes and getting called on the carpet for his decision-making on the field.


Is this Brett Favre's last hurrah? (Otto Greule Jr / Getty Images)

Let's explain.

Favre, who long had a great relationship with head coaches in Green Bay, was rarely called on the carpet with the Packers, especially in front of the team. With the Jets, however, the sources say that Favre has been called to what they dub "the principal's office" and grilled about making bad throws that turned into interceptions. Those same sources say this is not just done in private. Mangini will also grill Favre about his throws in front of the team, just like everybody else.

For a guy who for all intents and purposes earned the right to be treated like a king in Green Bay and treated with a certain respect not bestowed upon others, this approach must be quite the awkward awakening. In Green Bay, Favre had his own locker room area to dress, an office area among other perks. He certainly wasn't called out.

In addition, there have been grumblings about how often the Jets have to meet. Many players privately take issue with how many meetings they have under Mangini.

But the kicker that wears on Favre and others are little impromptu quizzes that Mangini often hits his players with during the week. Mangini will call guys out and ask them personnel questions about their opponents. Usually that's OK, but the difference here is that Mangini will ask offensive players who opposing offensive players are and if guys, including Favre, do not have the correct answer those players also get called out in front of the team.

Again, nobody ever knows what Favre will do, even after he announces his intentions. However, everyone close to the situation feels he will, in fact, walk away and walk this time for good.

Bears send Orton, picks to Denver for gunslinger Jay Cutler

Angelo pulls trigger, gets Cutler from Broncos for Orton, picks

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April 3, 2009
BY MIKE MULLIGAN mmulligan@suntimes.com

The Bears have paid lip service to the quarterback spot for decades, but in one of the boldest moves in franchise history, they may have finally solved the position.
Jay Cutler is a Chicago Bear.
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Jay Cutler is the type of quarterback Bears fans have been coveting for decades.


A surprise game of musical chairs ended Thursday with the Bears sitting in the catbird seat. The quarterback-starved franchise surrendered its 2009 and 2010 first-round draft picks, a third-rounder this year and starting quarterback Kyle Orton for Cutler and the Broncos' fifth-round pick in April.
''The rarity of the opportunity makes it unique,'' general manager Jerry Angelo said. ''But really, being in this situation as long as I have been, you just know when things are right. Part of it's a gut feeling.

''We've done a lot of homework. We talked internally quite a bit. Everybody felt good about this. It starts with ownership, and everybody, including ownership and [coach Lovie Smith] were 100 percent behind this. We felt if we get in it, we have to get in it to win it.''

Angelo said the Bears won't immediately have to redo Cutler's contract, which has three years remaining on it, but look for a big-money deal soon. They also gave Cutler a bodyguard Thursday, agreeing to terms with seven-time Pro Bowl left tackle Orlando Pace on a three-year contract.
Regardless of the price, the payoff should be beyond belief for a team that has been searching for a franchise quarterback since the great Sid Luckman, a World War II-era player who still holds team passing records.
Cutler will speak today at a news conference at 5 p.m. at Halas Hall. It will be broadcast live on Comcast SportsNet.

Cutler, who turns 26 this month, made the Pro Bowl last season and possesses a dizzying array of talents, including one of the strongest arms in the league, a quick release and the ability to run out of trouble.
The way he orchestrated his run out of Denver, however, has created doubt about his leadership ability, one of the most important intangibles at the position. Cutler hastened his departure by demanding a trade after a monthlong melodrama stemming from the Broncos' failed efforts to trade for New England's Matt Cassel. New Broncos coach Josh McDaniels, the Patriots' former offensive coordinator, wanted to bring in a quarterback who knew his system.

Cutler felt betrayed, and a meeting between him and McDaniels served only to sour the relationship further. The Broncos on Tuesday announced their intention to trade Cutler after they said no one with the team, including owner Pat Bowlen, could get in contact with him for 10 days. Cutler has denied that charge and said he was surprised things reached the point they did in Denver.

''I don't have any concerns,'' Angelo said of the character issue. ''Lovie and I talked about that. We did a lot of work, not just when he was with Denver, going back to his days at Vanderbilt. One of our area scouts, Rex Hogan, lives in the Nashville area [and] developed a great rapport during the process prior to the [2006] draft.

''We felt that he's a very good person, a good leader. He had some things that happened in Denver. We recognize those, but we treated them as speed bumps, part of the growing process. He's highly competitive, he's highly emotional. That comes with the territory.''

NFL sources said the Bears were among the most aggressive teams in pursuit of Cutler, but they were hardly alone. Washington, Tampa Bay, Detroit, Cleveland and the New York Jets all tried to seal a deal. The Browns might have won the sweepstakes had Cutler's agent, Bus Cook, not also represented Brett Favre. The longtime Packers star didn't mesh last year with Jets coach Eric Mangini, who was fired and landed in Cleveland.
Mangini reportedly was willing to give up Brady Quinn in a deal for Cutler. Quinn, who played for former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis at Notre Dame, might have been a good fit in McDaniels' system. But Cook made it clear when talks began that Cutler wanted no part of Mangini, and fears that he wouldn't report to the Browns shut down that deal.

Cutler grew up a Bears fan in Santa Claus, Ind., and will join two of his Vanderbilt teammates -- tackle Chris Williams and wide receiver Earl Bennett -- on the Bears. He threw for a Broncos-record 4,526 yards last season with 25 touchdowns, 18 interceptions and an 86.0 passer rating. In three seasons since Denver drafted him with the 11th pick, Cutler has completed 62.5 percent of his passes with 54 touchdowns, 37 interceptions and an 87.1 rating in 37 starts.

Without first-round picks the next two seasons, the Bears followed the Cutler trade by agreeing to terms with Pace, who is expected to start at left tackle with Williams moving to the right side. Their first of eight picks is now No. 49 in the second round.

While the Bears gave up their third-rounder (No. 84) to get Cutler, they retain a third-round compensatory pick (No. 99) for losing Bernard Berrian in free agency last year. They also have one pick in the fourth round, two in the fifth, one in the sixth and two in the seventh.

yeah, just find it funny that he may have given us a gift with his unhappiness to make up for the years of crap

thought joker lived in Cali?