Thread: Bulaga moved to Lg already- arms too short?..lol

Originally Posted by Evernight

Actually Hawk has done quite well this offseason. He's slimmer and faster, which will help him get around more easily. Our defense is mostly made up of young guys aside from Harris, Woodson (who is better than any player you have on D), and Pickett.

Evernight, lets see him do it in the real season when it actually counts. Much like I have been saying about Hester, playing well in practice situations means squat. Do it when it matters to get credit.

Originally Posted by dabears54

let me guess "hester doing well all offseason a d working with bruce"= who cares? as you said last week... but aj "bust" hawk, losing playing time IN CAMP to chillar in 2010= he did well in offseason?? what a joke!

This is also true for Hester, he has looked great in the preseason workouts, practices and whatnot. But he has to be able to do it when it counts and matters.

So Evernight, by your own admission of doing well in preseason, you must believe that Hester will be much improved and be a good addition to the offense, if you are in fact saying that AJ Hawk will be better this season because he has looked good in preseason.

Cant have it both ways.

Originally Posted by dabears54

let me guess "hester doing well all offseason a d working with bruce"= who cares? as you said last week... but aj "bust" hawk, losing playing time IN CAMP to chillar in 2010= he did well in offseason?? what a joke!

your homer goggles showing again

Yes those 50+ sacks given up last year is a 'real superior" o line..lololololol

Injury riddled?? WTF!!.. you first say losing urlacher, pisa ,harris etc to injurry for bears "no excuse".. now the packers injuries an 'excuse"

go it! what extreme homerism as usual from evernight.

and if "lucky" to only give up 51 and have the SAEM players for 2010,, that to anyone with a modicum of football intelligence a REAL BAD SIGN.

So if hawk, woodson,mathews, raji, picket and company gave up 51,, and all back.. doesn't that mean big trouble will continue?

I don't care who's losing or gaining play time as long as we have our best players on the field at all times.

I didn't say our line as a whole, I said Clifton and Tauscher are superior to anything you have at offensive line. You sling the word "homer" around like it's going out of style.

Injury riddled?? WTF!!.. you first say losing urlacher, pisa ,harris etc to injurry for bears "no excuse".. now the packers injuries an 'excuse"

Show me where I said this.

We gave up 51 points because we were riddled with injuries in the secondary, plain and simple. There were only two games the entire season where the defense played poorly, and those were towards the end when players were going down.

How would having all of our good players back with another year of experience for our young guys = trouble continuing? The logic sector of your brain is non-existant. Had we had all of our players playing and healthy we would have been fine. Instead we had to rely on some crappy backups that hadn't had much play time at all.

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

Evernight, lets see him do it in the real season when it actually counts. Much like I have been saying about Hester, playing well in practice situations means squat. Do it when it matters to get credit.



This is also true for Hester, he has looked great in the preseason workouts, practices and whatnot. But he has to be able to do it when it counts and matters.

So Evernight, by your own admission of doing well in preseason, you must believe that Hester will be much improved and be a good addition to the offense, if you are in fact saying that AJ Hawk will be better this season because he has looked good in preseason.

Cant have it both ways.

I never said he was going to be amazing or even good this season, I said he's showing signs of improvement in camp that he never showed before. Whether or not that actually translates on game day remains to be seen.

Hester isn't a good addition to any offense. He's possibly the worst #1 WR in the league, the only problem is you don't have anything better to overtake him.

Well evernight your first team "D" sure left off right were ended last year- playing like crap and giving up points:

i mean the totall offensively challanged crappy clevland browns, went up and down the field on your "D" like a "D-1" team playing a D-3" team

<LI class="CLEfont pbp-team">Cleveland Browns at 15:00 2-M.Crosby kicks 78 yards from GB 30 to CLV -8. 30-G.Lawson, Touchback.
1-10-CLE 20 (15:00) 17-J.Delhomme pass short left to 89-E.Moore to CLV 37 for 17 yards (36-N.Collins).
1-10-CLE 37 (14:31) 17-J.Delhomme pass short left to 11-M.Massaquoi to GB 46 for 17 yards (56-N.Barnett; 38-T.Williams).
1-10-GB 46 (13:54) 35-J.Harrison up the middle to GB 42 for 4 yards (77-C.Jenkins; 90-B.Raji).
2-6-GB 42 (13:15) (Shotgun) 17-J.Delhomme pass short left to 89-E.Moore to GB 35 for 7 yards (38-T.Williams).
1-10-GB 35 (12:42) 40-P.Hillis right tackle to GB 33 for 2 yards (42-M.Burnett, 56-N.Barnett).
2-8-GB 33 (12:00) (Shotgun) 17-J.Delhomme pass incomplete short middle to 80-B.Robiskie (36-N.Collins).
3-8-GB 33 (11:55) 17-J.Delhomme pass short right to 11-M.Massaquoi to GB 26 for 7 yards (33-B.Underwood).
4-1-GB 26 (11:12) 17-J.Delhomme pass short right to 11-M.Massaquoi to GB 14 for 12 yards (33-B.Underwood).
1-10-GB 14 (10:30) 35-J.Harrison up the middle to GB 10 for 4 yards (79-R.Pickett; 50-A.Hawk).
2-6-GB 10 (9:49) 17-J.Delhomme pass short left to 80-B.Robiskie to GB 4 for 6 yards (38-T.Williams).
1-4-GB 4 (9:07) 35-J.Harrison right guard for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN. WATCH HIGHLIGHT
4-P.Dawson extra point is GOOD, Center-64-R.Pontbriand, Holder-2-R.Hodges.
CLV 7 GB 0 Plays: 11 Possession: 5:56

<LI class="CLEfont pbp-team">Cleveland Browns at 08:47 1-10-GB 13 (8:47) 6-S.Wallace pass incomplete short right to 80-B.Robiskie (33-B.Underwood).
2-10-GB 13 (8:45) 6-S.Wallace pass incomplete short left to 80-B.Robiskie (38-T.Williams).
3-10-GB 13 (8:40) (Shotgun) 6-S.Wallace pass short left to 80-B.Robiskie for 13 yards, TOUCHDOWN. WATCH HIGHLIGHT
4-P.Dawson extra point is GOOD, Center-64-R.Pontbriand, Holder-2-R.Hodges.
CLV 14 GB 0 Plays: 3 Possession: 0:15
<LI class="CLEfont pbp-team">Cleveland Browns at 14:29 2-M.Crosby kicks 63 yards from GB 30 to CLV 7. 30-G.Lawson to CLV 37 for 30 yards (86-D.Lee; 24-J.Bush).
1-10-CLE 37 (14:21) 6-S.Wallace sacked ob at CLV 34 for -3 yards (51-B.Poppinga).
2-13-CLE 34 (13:56) 6-S.Wallace pass short right to 80-B.Robiskie to CLV 47 for 13 yards (36-N.Collins; 33-B.Underwood).
1-10-CLE 47 (13:22) 35-J.Harrison left end to CLV 49 for 2 yards (54-B.Chillar, 24-J.Bush).
2-8-CLE 49 (12:43) (Shotgun) 6-S.Wallace pass short left to 40-P.Hillis to GB 25 for 26 yards (38-T.Williams).
1-10-GB 25 (12:08) 6-S.Wallace pass incomplete deep middle to 16-J.Cribbs (36-N.Collins).
2-10-GB 25 (12:02) 35-J.Harrison up the middle to GB 20 for 5 yards (79-R.Pickett).
3-5-GB 20 (11:22) (Shotgun) 6-S.Wallace pass short middle to 82-B.Watson for 20 yards, TOUCHDOWN. WATCH HIGHLIGHT
4-P.Dawson extra point is GOOD, Center-64-R.Pontbriand, Holder-2-R.Hodges.
CLV 21 GB 14 Plays: 7 Possession: 3:12

Originally Posted by Evernight

I never said he was going to be amazing or even good this season, I said he's showing signs of improvement in camp that he never showed before. Whether or not that actually translates on game day remains to be seen.

Hester isn't a good addition to any offense. He's possibly the worst #1 WR in the league, the only problem is you don't have anything better to overtake him.

How is he showing signs of improving in camp?- when the articles saying he's losing time to chillar and bishop? to everyone else that says he's NOT improving..

need to take off your homer glasses to read the below:

The newest development is Brandon Chillar receiving time outside. Chillar usually plays in the nickel in place of A.J. Hawk, but Chillar has been playing outside. Another aspect of moving Chillar outside is getting Desmond Bishop on the field in the nickel. Could Barnett get an extended look outside on 3rd downs? Chillar is a solid player, but is he big enough to hold the point of attack from an outside spot? I would like to see someone with more size playing the left outside.
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During the mandatory minicamp, Moss made the unusual comment that Hawk needs to occasionally go outside the scheme in order to make plays.

“The players that take it to another level are the players that, the moment they see an opportunity, whether it’s within the scheme or outside the scheme … I know a coach shouldn’t be saying this, but he’s got to take a shot when he has the opportunity,” Moss said at the time. He’s just now got to have that (mentality of), ‘If I take a shot, if it happens, I’m a hero. If it doesn’t, yeah, the coach will probably say something, but what the hell … I’m trying to make a play.’”

His goal is to be an every-down player this season, but with the coaches having moved Brandon Chillar outside last week and currently using Desmond Bishop inside along with Barnett in the No. 1 nickel package, he has his work cut out for him changing the coaches’ minds.

players back with another year of experience for our young guys = trouble continuing? The logic sector of your brain is non-existant...Had we had all of our players playing and healthy we would have been fine

only one with 'no logic" is the piss yellow and green homer posting 'claiming" young packer players coming back with another year of experience= good and they will be better and claiming if you don't think that= the logic of your brain non-existant

BUt young bear players like the WR's coming back with another year of experience= they will suck and be bad.

And the funny part is you don't even see how quickly you contradict your own posts!

Originally Posted by dabears54

only one with 'no logic" is the piss yellow and green homer posting 'claiming" young packer players coming back with another year of experience= good and they will be better and claiming if you don't think that= the logic of your brain non-existant

BUt young bear players like the WR's coming back with another year of experience= they will suck and be bad.

And the funny part is you don't even see how quickly you contradict your own posts!

I've contradicted nothing. It's YOU who's attempting to put words in my mouth. You somehow get that I think all bear players suck when I've never insinuated anything remotely close to that. Devin Hester ≠ your whole team, sorry to say. And yes, he does suck.