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    Fine, no suspension, coming for Brett Favre

    Fine, no suspension, coming for Brett Favre

    Posted by Michael David Smith on December 29, 2010, 10:48 AM EST
    The NFL will fine Brett Favre but not suspend him for sexually harassing Jenn Sterger when both worked for the Jets, according to multiple reports out this morning.
    Both Jay Glazer of FOX and Adam Schefter of ESPN have reported that the discipline is coming. Schefter reported that it will come in the next 48 hours and will not include a suspension, while Glazer reported that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is expected to fine Favre today or tomorrow but not suspend him.
    Since we always enjoy pointing out a good media feud, we’ll also note that after Schefter and Glazer tweeted about Favre, NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora tweeted, “I’ve reported for a month Favre to get fined but not suspended for Sterger case, and decision announced by end of reg season. No news there.”
    A minute later La Canfora tweeted, “So here is some actual news: The fine will not exceed $50,000, and could in fact be less.”
    The lack of a suspension means that if Favre is medically cleared, he will play what everyone expects to be his final NFL game on Sunday in Detroit.


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    Really? No suspension? Wow...


    Yeah, with it being his last game, it wouldn't matter... but this is situational punishing. They need to be consistent. He did the crime, he does the time.

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    I think the best punishment would be clearing favre to play next week.

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    Does not Sterger have to file a sex harrassment suit for it to be actual sexual harrassment? If the league is so concerned and have a low tolerance they should also have suspended him. But of course it's just the National Fine you League.
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    League’s punishment of Favre falls short

    Posted by Mike Florio on December 29, 2010, 1:52 PM EST
    The NFL has spoken. MDS provided a quick summary of the ruling earlier this afternoon. We’ve now had a chance to digest the full press release.
    In a nutshell? The league thinks Brett Favre is a liar. But the league doesn’t think he sexually harassed former Jets in-house sideline reporter Jenn Sterger.
    “Commissioner Goodell . . . determined that Favre was not candid in several respects during the investigation, resulting in a longer review and additional negative public attention for Favre, Sterger, and the NFL,” the league’s official release states. “The commissioner notified Favre that he has been fined $50,000 for his failure to cooperate with the investigation in a forthcoming manner. Commissioner Goodell stated to Favre that if he had found a violation of the league’s workplace conduct policies, he would have imposed a substantially higher level of discipline.”
    It’s a fancy and convoluted way of saying that Favre lied, perhaps on multiple occasions.
    As to the issue of sexual harassment, Favre apparently avoided a sanction because the “forensic analysis could not establish that Favre sent the objectionable photographs to Sterger.” Even if the league had concluded that Favre had sent the photos (and by now we all know what the photos depicted), a key question remains as to whether and to what extent Sterger was genuinely offended by behavior about which she never complained to the Jets or to the league. Indeed, the entire investigation commenced without any complaint from Sterger, and she cooperated only reluctantly — and, as many believe, after it became clear that Favre would not buy Sterger’s silence via a settlement of her potential claims.
    That said, we’re troubled by the slap on the wrist Favre has received for lying. Sure, it’s not the first time he has stretched the truth. But as we pointed out in connection with the Sal Alosi situation, lying by an employee within the confines of an official investigation requires the harshest of punishments (but not quite to the Tucker Carlson level).
    Lying to an employer who is investigating wrongdoing is no different than perjury or obstruction of justice in a legal proceeding. And if an employee can get away with lying (or, as in Favre’s case, fined the equivalent of what he earns in three minutes of one game), the message to all other employees is clear: It’s better to be caught in a lie than to be caught in the truth.
    Employees in other industries routinely are fired for such behavior. At a bare minimum, Favre should have received a suspension.
    If a player smoking pot on multiple occasions is enough to trigger a four-game banishment, the disrespect Favre demonstrated by lying to the league at a time when the league was trying its best to investigate a serious issue regarding workplace behavior should have resulted in at least the same penalty.
    Even more troubling is the fact that the league has minced words. Favre lied. Why not say Favre lied? The fact that the guy holds every career quarterback record doesn’t insulate him from the consequences of his actions, or from calling what he did precisely what he did, without words that may cause people to think that, in essence, Favre lied.
    The fact that he lied also should have prompted the league to take Sterger’s word as to any other aspect of their he-said/she-said factual dispute. Juries routinely reject the entire testimony of a witness who is caught in a lie. The NFL should have done the same here.
    Thus, if Sterger said that Favre sent the pictures and Favre said he didn’t and Favre has otherwise lied, why should the NFL or anyone else reject Sterger’s version of the events? (That said, the question of whether Sterger was genuinely offended would require further analysis, especially in light of the version of the events supplied by her former friend, Allison Torres.)
    Earlier this week, lawyer Joseph Conway said that Favre was getting preferential treatment. Though a carefully-crafted slap on the wrist is intended to lead us all to believe otherwise, Conway was right.


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    He's absolutely getting preferrential treatment. It's just another example of how the league protects it's icons and it sends a really poor message throughout the league where sexual misconduct is a common occurence. This shit will never stop until the league starts instituting season long bans for offenses like this and domestic violence which is another common place occurence. Fining an icon who makes $18 mil a measly $50k is an insult to any decent thinking person. It's pure bullshit!

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    While the math on his time spent isn't correct (he has practices, etc), it still puts it into perspective on how trivial the fine is for him.
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    bester analogy was the if you make $50,000/yr the equivlent fine is $1 according to same espn story,,lol

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    I read the same ESPN article and the author really crucifies Goodell for his excuses surrounding this. I couldn't agree more. Pete Rose gets banned from pro baseball for gambling and lying about it but all Lord Favre gets is a measly $50k fine that's he equivalent of being fined $1.20 to a guy making $50k per year. What a frickin' joke. James Harrison has $125k in fines this season for simply playing the game as he was taught and up until recently the NFL not only approved up but actually encouraged. Favre's case was clearly one of behavior detrimental to the reputation of the NFL not to mention his own reputation which he apparently cares little or nothing about. What a travesty.

    He lies to Goodell about the nature of his involvement and Goodell still chooses to believe him over the evidence and testimony of others who didn't lie. I have it on good authority that he's been involved in this type of behavior before while he was with the Packers but because of his heroic status it was covered up and never saw the light of day. He's not only an embarassment to the league and his team but also to his wife and family.

    I hope that asshole never plays another NFL game in his life and that once he's finally out of the league and the talking heads stop drooling over him that fans will finally see him for the self-centered, selfish, fvck head that he is. Good fvckin' riddance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    I read the same ESPN article and the author really crucifies Goodell for his excuses surrounding this. I couldn't agree more. Pete Rose gets banned from pro baseball for gambling and lying about it but all Lord Favre gets is a measly $50k fine that's he equivalent of being fined $1.20 to a guy making $50k per year. What a frickin' joke. James Harrison has $125k in fines this season for simply playing the game as he was taught and up until recently the NFL not only approved up but actually encouraged. Favre's case was clearly one of behavior detrimental to the reputation of the NFL not to mention his own reputation which he apparently cares little or nothing about. What a travesty.

    He lies to Goodell about the nature of his involvement and Goodell still chooses to believe him over the evidence and testimony of others who didn't lie. I have it on good authority that he's been involved in this type of behavior before while he was with the Packers but because of his heroic status it was covered up and never saw the light of day. He's not only an embarassment to the league and his team but also to his wife and family.

    I hope that asshole never plays another NFL game in his life and that once he's finally out of the league and the talking heads stop drooling over him that fans will finally see him for the self-centered, selfish, fvck head that he is. Good fvckin' riddance.
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