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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    true,but it mostly a 'rubberstamp", and as all 32 owner's of course want the 'right" to move or use in negotating their own stadium deals, they are not going to veto it unless something is really wrong or makes no sense( ala crazy al trying to move when selling out in oakland)
    But Phil Anschutz isn't gonna build a new stadium in LA for Ziggy Wilf to use and Ziggy can't even get one built in Minnesota let alone California. They'll give him even less support than Minnesota does. I don't think a move by Minny to LA makes any sense and that's why I can't see it happening. Move the Rams back there and let Anschutz partner up with the Rams new ownership. They could use the help and you wouldn't have to realign the divisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    But Phil Anschutz isn't gonna build a new stadium in LA for Ziggy Wilf to use and Ziggy can't even get one built in Minnesota let alone California. They'll give him even less support than Minnesota does. I don't think a move by Minny to LA makes any sense and that's why I can't see it happening. Move the Rams back there and let Anschutz partner up with the Rams new ownership. They could use the help and you wouldn't have to realign the divisions.
    oh on that specific point agree 100% ashultz unless gets a "expansion team" or buys the team before moves it( ala a rams) will not get involved with a ziggy

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    Just an update on an issue we haven't had any news on for a while. The "Humpy Dome" repairs are complete and the roof is being reinflated today as hopes for a new stadium are still on hold. No matter what it looks to me like the Vikes will still be playing either in the Dome or at the U or Minnesota stadium for a more years.

    New stadium on hold during state shutdown Brad Biggs
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    With the new roof of the Metrodome scheduled to be inflated this morning, officials from the Minnesota Vikings toured the stadium on Tuesday. The Vikings are at a bit of a standstill when it comes toward the proposed project to build a new stadium in Arden Hills because of the state shutdown, but team president Mark Wilf remained upbeat.

    I think it looks great," Wilf said of the Metrodome in a KFAN interview, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.
    But the future of the Vikings – longterm anyway – isn’t in the Metrodome. The club’s lease at the stadium expires at the end of this season. They need a deal for a new home.

    “It's coming along well but of course we're very mindful and respectful of what's going on with the budget situation with the state," Wilf said. "We're always said that the stadium is not going to come before a budget solution. We're in a good position to be part of a special session. We look forward to being there and we have great partners with the governor, the Legislature and Ramsey County. We're hopeful but obviously we know that the budget comes first and the state comes first."

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    Here's the latest on the Vikes bid for new digs. It's not going well at all.

    Vikings on stadium: ‘We’re assessing our options’

    By DAVE CAMPBELL, AP Sports Writer Jul 19, 7:53 pm EDT

    MINNEAPOLIS (AP)—The Minnesota Vikings significantly advanced their new stadium plan this year, finding a public partner to help fund the proposed $1.1 billion project and hearing supportive words from the state’s new governor.

    Minnesota’s $5 billion budget deficit blocked the path to progress, though, and the partisan impasse over how to fill that gap forced the state government to shut down at the beginning of the month, shoving the stadium to the background. Gov. Mark Dayton, a Democrat, and the Republican majorities in the House and the Senate have been busy this week completing their agreement to put Minnesota back in business and guide state spending for the new cycle, but the Vikings were dealt another setback.

    The stadium won’t be considered during this special session of the Legislature, and Dayton said Tuesday he’s reluctant to call another special session later in the year to address a request the team first raised more than a decade ago.

    “I haven’t decided. It’s not ready to be considered at this point,” Dayton said. “We’ll have to see if negotiations proceed to a point where it can be.… I take calling a special session very seriously and something I would not do routinely. It would have to be circumstances that compel it, and, again, I don’t know whether those will occur or not.”

    Vikings vice president for public affairs and stadium development Lester Bagley offered a rather ominous response.
    “All I can tell you is that we are assessing our options,” Bagley said, declining to elaborate.

    The Vikings have begun the final year of their lease at the 29-year-old Metrodome, now called Mall of America Field, which is getting a new roof after the old one collapsed during a snowstorm last December. In February, when the lease expires, they will essentially be free agents. Next year’s regular session of the Legislature begins in January.

    While owner Zygi Wilf has repeatedly said he won’t move the team, developers in Los Angeles—two different groups have stadium plans for the nation’s second-largest market—have inquired before about his interest in selling the franchise. If the lease expires without much more progress toward a new building, Los Angeles is sure to beckon again. “What would you do if you had a chance to go to Los Angeles?” asked Ramsey County Commissioner Tony Bennett, who worked with the Vikings on a plan to build a suburban stadium in Arden Hills on a polluted old army ammunitions site about 10 miles north of the Metrodome in downtown Minneapolis and open it in 2015.
    Wilf and the Vikings have pledged more than $400 million to the project, which also calls for a half-cent sales tax in Ramsey County that would contribute another $350 million. They’ve asked for $300 million in state money.

    “We were ready. The Vikings were ready,” Bennett said. “But apparently the Legislature wasn’t ready and the Governor wasn’t ready, based on what he’s saying.” He added: “We were making some progress, and then we went into a deadlock on the budget. Of course the budget is a much higher priority. I don’t consider it in same room. We agreed to keep the stadium in the background, but we had pretty good assurances that the House and the Senate would allow this to go forward.”

    Several state legislators expressed concern about pushing a stadium now, given the already strong public backlash about the budget deficit and the shutdown. The 2012 session, with re-elections looming, could be an even more adverse political climate through which to navigate a stadium bill.

    “We’ve done everything that has been asked of us,” Bagley said last week.“It’s time to do it. We’re down to months left on our lease and every day that goes by, the cost of the project goes up.”

    Bennett spoke Tuesday by phone from Portland, Ore., where he attended an annual conference for the National Association of Counties. He said he was razzed by a couple of his colleagues from California about the possibility of the Vikings moving to Los Angeles.
    “But I think we can keep them here. The Governor said he wanted jobs. Well, there’s 13,000 jobs, for three years,” Bennett said, referring to estimates of how many construction workers would be needed for the project.

    Associated Press Writer Martiga Lohn in St. Paul, Minn., contributed to this report.
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    Does minny not read the news? Are they not aware of their own history to losing franchises to LA?

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    Does minny not read the news? Are they not aware of their own history to losing franchises to LA?
    Haha, good point Ric. I hadn't thought of that. I must admit that despite having lived in the area and having family in Minnesota I still don't know much about their politics. The population of the Twin Cities is a highly educated bunch so I don't think they lack the awareness it's more like they don't care. They lost a hockey team to Dallas, of all places, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Haha, good point Ric. I hadn't thought of that. I must admit that despite having lived in the area and having family in Minnesota I still don't know much about their politics. The population of the Twin Cities is a highly educated bunch so I don't think they lack the awareness it's more like they don't care. They lost a hockey team to Dallas, of all places, too.
    It seems that about the only sports franchise that the Twin Cities really cares about is the Minnesota Twins, because Target Field draws well, and usually the team produces winners, this year being an exception. The Twins were actually drawn to the Minneapolis/St. Paul area from Washington, D.C., home of the old Washington Senators, so apparently the team is really popular there and has had its share of great players over the years from Harmon Killebrew (R.I.P.) to Rod Carew to Kirby Puckett and now Joe Mauer. That goes to show that if you produce a winning product more often than a losing one, your organization will draw fans and a larger TV share.

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