Thread: BBAO: Cullen Jenkins expects to depart

Originally Posted by dabears54

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not really, or you do not understand contracts, lt me explain: cutler's deal is $50 mill for 5 years

cutler got $11 million UP FRONT( 4 mill rb and 7 mill Sb) in 2010 and another $9 mil in 2010 salary or $20 mill first year, he gets another 12 mill guranted roster bonus in 2011 and 7.6 mill in salary or basically $30 mill in teh first 2 years of the deal.. or 60% UPFRONT.

So no sure how receiving $20 mll his first year and 8 mill his last year is a "rising contract" or $30 mill in the first 2 years and 20 mill in last 3 is not a front loaded deal

Case made and explaind that the deal is front loaded NOT BACK LOADED


sAME FOR URLACHER, HIS DEAL 60% UP FRONT AND WHIL HIS SALARY DOES GO UP HIS ACTUAL PAYMENTS DO DOWN in the deal

Not talking bonus money here DB. I am talking about year by year dollars.

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

Not talking bonus money here DB. I am talking about year by year dollars.

Why would you do that? bonus money what weare talkign about when say 'front loaded" or "back loaded".. NO contract is just salaries, that is the POINT, teams FRONT LOAD DEAL not back load deals now.. as its the only "guranteed money".. because now the bonuses in most cases are guranteed.. its why see like peppers 7 years 63 million 43 mill guranteeed, because they guarnatee the SB and RB thefirst few years, which is what we were talking about. Why would we only be talking salaries?? that makes zero sense and the bonuses( be it signing or roster ARE THE YEARLY DOLLAR AMOUNTS)

cutler dollar amount $17 million in year one and $13 mill in year 2, as again showing its a front loaded, not a back loaded deal, not sure
how that confuses you?

Originally Posted by dabears54

Why would you do that? bonus money what weare talkign about when say 'front loaded" or "back loaded".. NO contract is just salaries, that is the POINT, teams FRONT LOAD DEAL not back load deals now.. as its the only "guranteed money".. because now the bonuses in most cases are guranteed.. its why see like peppers 7 years 63 million 43 mill guranteeed, because they guarnatee the SB and RB thefirst few years, which is what we were talking about. Why would we only be talking salaries?? that makes zero sense and the bonuses( be it signing or roster ARE THE YEARLY DOLLAR AMOUNTS)

cutler dollar amount $17 million in year one and $13 mill in year 2, as again showing its a front loaded, not a back loaded deal, not sure
how that confuses you?

Again, was not talking about bonus money. I was talking about the year by year dollars without bonus money. I previously mentioned the guaranteed money, however they contracts are usually back loaded. Which as I showed they are, outside of the guaranteed money.

Why are you not understanding my point? Must you argue with everything?

Originally Posted by Evernight

My logic, reading comprehension and sense of humor (when there's actual humor to be had, that is) are fine. I've never shied away from any ball busting, and I bust right back.

OK then. Would it also be fair to add "has to get last word in" to your list of minor flaws?

Gonna love to see how you'll handle this one.

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

Again, was not talking about bonus money. I was talking about the year by year dollars without bonus money. I previously mentioned the guaranteed money, however they contracts are usually back loaded. Which as I showed they are, outside of the guaranteed money.

Why are you not understanding my point? Must you argue with everything?

So to you a let's say a 4 year, 50 million deal that paid the players $49 million the first year in bonuses, and only a $100,000 salary and then paid him 200,000, 300,000 an 400,000 the next 3 years is a "backloaded" deal?.. that is crazy, sorry

How can you argue and no include the bonus money? that doesn't make sense, as hope you see. Its OK to just admit wrong and not try and argue it. Salaries the lesser part of most deals now.. Why would you no include all money of a contract to detirmine if its a front loaded or back loaded deal.. that makes no sense