LOL. Got the math to go with this outstanding pile of bullshit hypothesis?Originally Posted by motownbear
He played it his entire career before last season and got 6 sacks doing it just one season ago, so "developing" into that role taking three years is a giant load.
Last edited by lklrlolnlilklsox; 04-12-2011 at 10:44 PM.
If he's available at round 2, we should fucking take him. He's versatile enough, he could switch around like Idonije has, and keep our line fresh. I think guard 1st round, and Ballard 2nd..If we trade down, then all's well.
Henry the only OG I would even vaguely think about taking in the first is Pouncey and I'm really hoping it doesn't come down to that. We can get as good at OG in FA and right now you'd have to put OT and DT ahead of OG as far as top needs go. There are some very good OG prospects who'll still be on the board in rounds two and three.
One mock is saw had us taking Ballard in the second but I question whether or not they know that what we need is a 3t UT type guy and Ballard just doesn't have the goods to do that as well as others. His build is also more that of a DE as well. I just saw another mock with him going in the top half of round two while we take Sherrod and Nevis one and two. Not sure I like that combo though. Both are question marks at their projected positions.
Personally I think you're far better off drafting players for the position they played in college. Most conversions don't work out all that well. Ballard was a college DE and should play DE in the pros as well. Wilkerson is of a similar size and he has played both 3t DT and 5t DE in college. If that flexibility is what we're looking for he's the guy we should take.
Williams and Garza are both trash as OG's. Williams can be used as an OT, and that leaves us with 2 spots in the middle. Webb is a good enough RT, and honestly whatever OT that is available for us at 29 isn't going to be that good, but seing how OG are hardly ever picked high, we could still get the top of the crop there, which is overlooked, for some reason.
I don't agree with this statement but I do agree that we could upgrade those positions and that's most likely what we'll do with at least one of them.
And the reason that OG's seldom get picked that high is because you can find very good ones later in rounds 2-4 so why blow a first round pick on one. The ONLY OG who rates a first round grade is Pouncey and I still think he's somewhat overrated at that. He's not gonna be as good as Maurkice was right out of the box and he struggled playing OC at Florida. There is some risk associated with picking him.
There should be quite a few top level NFL starting OG's in FA and that's a much smarter move for bringing in one who would be an immediate upgrade to last years starters.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6...or-every-round
A Defensive Tackle for Every Round
This is just a review of possibilities in each round and not a mock draft (of how the Bears may end up drafting in the 2011 NFL draft).
Round 1, Pick 29: DT Corey Liuget—Illinois: Chicago has done some looking around at Liuget this offseason and it’s possible that the Bears could draft him in the first round. Liuget has the skill and ability to play in the Bears system and could come in and start in their rotation right away. He might need a little coaching, but for a first-round defensive end, he could be the best that the Bears get with their first-round pick.
Round 2, Pick 30 (62nd Overall): DT Jarvis Jenkins—Clemson: Jenkins has the size that the Bears would like to see in a defensive tackle and would fit their scheme well. The Bears are going to want their second-round pick to start right away and, with a little bit of work, Jenkins would be able to step in and start in short order.
Round 3, Pick 29 (93rd Overall): DT Marvin Austin—North Carolina:The Bears have expressed some interest in Austin and he may be on the Bear’s radar. Austin may end up falling in the draft because of some problems that he had at North Carolina. As a result, some people have been concerned about his character. Would the Bears be willing to take a chance on Austin because of that or will his talent make his character problems go away?
Round 4, Pick 30 (126th Overall): DT Drake Nevis—LSU: There are some people out there that feel that the Bears and Nevis would be a good fit. The Bears should be interested in him and there haven’t been any reports that have linked the Bears to being interested in Nevis, just yet, but you never know. He wouldn’t be a bad choice for them here and could be part of their rotation at the defensive tackle position almost immediately.
Round 5, Pick 29 (157th Overall): DT Terrell McClain—South Florida: It’s been said that Chicago has a lot of interest in McClain, and it’s possible that they could end up drafting him in this year’s draft. McClain is slated as a fourth to fifth-round pick and it might be the level of competition that he faced that forces him to go a little bit lower. The Bears would be salivating if he fell here to the fifth round (and it’s possible that they could try to get him in the fifth round) and he could end up being a less expensive fit in their defensive tackle rotation.
Round 6, Pick 30 (190th Overall): DT Cedric Thornton—Southern Arkansas: This small school prospect may end up making the Bears interested if they still haven’t filled their need at the defensive position in other rounds. Thornton has impressed a lot of people in the weeks leading up to the draft and the Bears could have some interest in him late in the draft.
Interesting that McClain is rated as low as the mid rounds. He would be a nice pick at that level if he drops. My biggest problem with him and Nevis is the lack of ideal size. Can these guys go out and hold up against 330lb plus OG's all game long?
Liuget is most likely our number one target in the first but what's up with the DE projection? If the Bears get him he'll be playing at DT not DE. I think that it's odd that they overlook Wilkerson. It may be because he projects as a DE but he played 3t DT before this past year. Don't know why he's being ignored when it looks like he may be the best option after Liuget which is what this thread was all about.
Don't know much about Jenkins and there's been no word that the Bears even have an interest in him.
Funny that they see Liuget as a DE but not Wilkerson as a DT.
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