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    Dave Duerson saga a complex tragedy that changed football forever

    RICK TELANDER rtelander@suntimes.com .hideTime { DISPLAY: none}Apr 15, 2011 06:22AM

    There are now two eras in modern football — before Dave Duerson and after Dave Duerson.
    Call them B.D. and A.D., if you will.
    But things in our grand American sport will never, nor should they ever, be the same.

    * * *

    The simple way to describe the Dave Duerson tragedy is this: A smart, talented, driven young man grew up in a Midwestern town, became a football star, graduated from a prestigious college, won two Super Bowls (one with the Bears, one with the Giants), earned his master’s in business from Harvard, raised a family, became a business millionaire, earned great political and ­community respect, saw it all crumble to dust and killed himself.


    That may be factual, but in so many ways, it’s not the truth.
    Dave Duerson was far too complicated to sum up in a mere run-on sentence of incidents. Indeed, his rise and fall has the earmarks of a Shakespearean tragedy — a complex protagonist displaying the great virtues and frailties of will, resolution, pride, stubbornness, genius, hubris, vanity and then, of course, the foreshadowed (in ­retrospect) and frightful descent into darkness.
    On Feb. 17, Duerson shot himself in the chest with a .38 special at his condo north of Miami.

    He was 50. As far as anyone knows, he was not in ill health. More precisely, his body — being those organs, bones and tissues ­exclusive of the brain — was in decent shape. On his bankruptcy statement, interestingly, he had listed under yearly medical ­expenses: “$0.”
    He had recently made a list of three new goals in his life: One — get a new job (“He was going to get back into the meat business down there, and he had a satellite-radio show that he was doing,’’ says best friend Harold Rice, the chief executive officer of the Albany Park Community Center on Chicago’s Northwest Side); two — he was going to get his weight down to 235 (he had played at 215 and was up to about 260); and three — he was going to spend more time with his kids.

    His business problems — a meat-packing plant that went under, personal financial ruin — were manifest, and he and his wife Alicia had divorced several years before. (That they were still best friends before his suicide hints at the complexity of his relationships with the world.) His four teenage and older children loved him, and he traveled up from Florida from time to time to see them at sporting events and to see Alicia. This was despite the fact he had angrily thrown Alicia against a wall, in a sudden and irrational burst of anger, while the couple were visiting Notre Dame in 2005 to attend a board of trustees meeting and to watch son Tregg play football. And despite the fact he had a new girlfriend in Washington, D.C., whom he had said he intended to marry.

    Dave had been down, yes. And life was seemingly crumbling about him, if it wasn’t already demolished. And his price was such that the move to Florida was almost as much an escape from his adopted hometown of Chicago and its judgment as it was a place to start over. But as Alicia says, “The financial situation and all that — he had dealt withit.’’
    “He came to me back in 2006 when it was all falling apart,’’ Rice says. “And he said, ‘You know what a phoenix is?’ I said, ‘Yes. A bird that rises from the ashes.’ He said, ‘Well, that’s me. That’s what I’m going to be — a phoenix.’  ’’

    At the death scene — as tidy and clean a suicide venue as the investigating Dade County police had ever seen — Duerson even had new business cards laid out, ones that ­designated him as an executive of a Florida meat distributor.

    In the condo, which Alicia and close family friend Otis Wilson and Rice would visit after the police investigation concluded, there was a bizarre, illogical ­normalcy to the place.
    There was a Bible, and books in proper places, towels folded, the carpet vacuumed. His Cadillac Escalade in the downstairs parking lot was freshly cleaned and detailed.
    “You would have thought that any second he was going to walk back in,’’ Rice says.
    Indeed, Rice was so disturbed by the rationality of the scene — all except the large blood stain on the mattress — that he told Alicia, “This stuff doesn’t add up.’’ He was certain it must have been a murder.

    But the security cameras showed that no one had come or gone from Duerson’s apartment in two days. There were long, typed letters from Duerson, but they were not about suicide, and Rice thought they could have been forged.

    * * *

    And then there was the hand-written note asking that his brain be studied by NFL researchers.

    “When I saw that, it was like someone sucked all the oxygen out of the air,’’ says Rice, who still is struggling with his friend’s ­departure.
    What Rice feels deeply and what others should assume to be true is harsh yet revealing: “He could not have been in his right mind.’’

    And there it is. There is the B.D. and the A.D.
    Duerson shot himself in the chest — not a certain or clean way to die — so that his brain could be analyzed without interference to see, to hopefully guarantee, that he was brain-damaged from head blows from football.

    For all of his chutzpah — Duerson had vanity plates at various times that read, “DBL-D’’ and “SAUSG-KNG,’’ and he had “NFL 22’’ inscribed on one of the cement posts holding up his ­driveway gate at his home in Highland Park — Duerson cared deeply about others. As Alicia and others have often pointed out, “He wanted to make a difference.’’
    His work with the NFL Players Association — he was the Bears’ union rep for his entire career and a close friend of late union chief Gene Upshaw — made him as aware of disability issues as anyone. When he got into his infamous ­diatribe against Mike Ditka regarding health payments to older ­veterans, he was being bullheaded, but he also was doing what he thought was right.

    Even if it wasn’t.

    First of all, you can’t win anything in Chicago trashing “Da Coach.’’ And second, the issue wasn’t really about “fiduciary responsibility,’’ as Duerson kept stating, nor was it about legalities or grandstanding or protecting interests for management or the union. It was about simply noticing that something in the game was very, very wrong, that staggering, crippled men were becoming the sport’s legacy.

    In the end, as in any deep tragedy, irony abounds. For it seems Duerson himself will be the poster man for that discovery, that now-universal realization that nothing is worth sacrificing one’s essence, one’s soul — one’s brain — for.

    * * *

    Now the signs of Duerson’s creeping brain demise seem more apparent.

    Alicia mentioned that when her husband roughed her up that night in South Bend, it was so out of character for him that it even shocked him. “I mean, come on, Dave would never do that,” Alicia says.

    The bad business decisions, so slightly irrational and then compounded, now can be seen more logically through the prism of dysfunctional disease, chronic traumatic encephalopathy, the brain disease caused by repetitive blows to the head.
    Even the mood swings make more sense.

    Indeed, Rice remembers an argument he and Duerson had in the late 1990s in which they almost came to blows, an irrational verbal attack by Duerson that abruptly ended when Dave said, “Really, ‘H’?’’

    Rice angrily replied, “Dammit, that’s what I’ve been telling you the whole f---ing night!”
    Rice sees that moment as ­definitive.

    “It was like it just got through to him, like he just heard it.’’


    * * *
    Collaborating on the lengthy Men’s Journal story with noted writer Paul Solotaroff was an exciting and challenging thing for both of us. How do two writers write one story? We didn’t know. But Paul handled the union and college and Miami stuff, and I mostly handled the Chicago and Bears stuff. Paul put it all together.


    We talked all the time, and there were moments of enlightenment, such as when I discovered that Duerson’s gigantic, defective meat freezer was built by a company in the Netherlands that simply dodged the $34 million court ­judgment Duerson won against it, or when Paul found out Duerson and the player reps on the NFL disability panel had unanimously voted against former disabled ­players’ money pleas.

    Both of us were moved by Duerson’s story, and I, especially, ­having known Duerson for years, have great compassion for his children, for Alicia and for all those who wondered who this man was at the end. Son Tregg was the one who had to send off the papers certifying that his father’s brain could be studied, and as he copied the forms at a local Kinko’s, he broke down. And wouldn’t any of us.

    The autopsy brain results will not be released by the Boston University brain trauma research team, led by Dr. Ann McKee and Dr. Robert Cantu, for a month or more, maybe much longer.

    But when the results do come out, I’m betting they show a man whose essence was compromised, a man who no longer knew who or what he was.
    It will be a sad thing, for sure.

    But, in its way, it will be a great comfort as well as a landmark.

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    Great follow up story to a man's life that had a tragic, almost unbelievable, ending. If only the causes and effects of mental disorders were more completely understood maybe those who suffer from them would receive better understanding and more help in treatment before it becomes to late.

    Some parts of my own life parallel Dave Duerson's very closely although fortunately I didn't have a far to fall as Dave did. Taking one's own life may seem like a very selfish act but at least in this case it might be looked at from a slightly different perspective.

    It would appear that if he didn't know for certain that he had a chronic mental condition for which there was no know cure he at least suspected it very strongly. As misguided as it seems maybe the reason he took his own life, other than the fact that he believed he couldn't live life as he wished with that condition, was to provide some hope that others be made more aware of it's existence and that research might be done an effective treatment.

    It's one of the only things that makes logical sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Great follow up story to a man's life that had a tragic, almost unbelievable, ending. If only the causes and effects of mental disorders were more completely understood maybe those who suffer from them would receive better understanding and more help in treatment before it becomes to late.

    Some parts of my own life parallel Dave Duerson's very closely although fortunately I didn't have a far to fall as Dave did. Taking one's own life may seem like a very selfish act but at least in this case it might be looked at from a slightly different perspective.

    It would appear that if he didn't know for certain that he had a chronic mental condition for which there was no know cure he at least suspected it very strongly. As misguided as it seems maybe the reason he took his own life, other than the fact that he believed he couldn't live life as he wished with that condition, was to provide some hope that others be made more aware of it's existence and that research might be done an effective treatment.

    It's one of the only things that makes logical sense to me.
    yeah one of telender's better pieces, and sorry about your troubles soul. I din't know about that $34 mill judgement he won ,but couldn't collect on before- that's enough to put anyone ina tailspin, and if already ehding that way, can see it really weighing ona person. I hope they do find somthing when release the brain scan- and some good can come from this tragedy, either with a medical breaktrhough, or at least a another statistical warning for people with multiple concussions

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    I, too, have problems just like soulman. I have bipolar disorder, which is the modern vernacular for "manic depression." I have threatened suicide a number of times - just recently, in fact, when I was given the option of either finding another therapist after I had burned my bridges with five others, or face institutionalization, and my reaction was that I would swallow all of my medication and drink alcohol with it. I have not done it, of course, but there has been only one real instance where I had planned to kill myself via carbon monoxide poisoning. It is a very scary period in someone's life, one where you look at the situation you are in on one hand and say to yourself, "Gee, if I pull the trigger, all of my troubles will be over," while the other hand says, "But if you do that, just think of the number of people who would miss you and who would be absolutely devastated." Recently, I have gotten so depressed that I could not even bear the thought of killing myself - all I wanted to do was sleep and stay secluded.

    I can relate to some of what Dave Duerson went through, but I never enjoyed success financially only to see everything around me crumble.

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    yeah one of telender's better pieces, and sorry about your troubles soul. I din't know about that $34 mill judgement he won ,but couldn't collect on before- that's enough to put anyone ina tailspin, and if already ehding that way, can see it really weighing ona person. I hope they do find somthing when release the brain scan- and some good can come from this tragedy, either with a medical breaktrhough, or at least a another statistical warning for people with multiple concussions
    It's very good piece and it sheds a lot more light on some of the struggles he faced. I really feel for his family. It sounds that despite his divorce he remained close with his former wife and his kids.

    As for my issues, they've existed for a long enough time that I've learned effective ways to deal with them. It's never gonna go away so if you don't learn how to handle the downswings you definitely will not live a long and happy life. For me the main thing was to accept it and not try to hide it from friends and family. You can't get help and understanding if you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    It's very good piece and it sheds a lot more light on some of the struggles he faced. I really feel for his family. It sounds that despite his divorce he remained close with his former wife and his kids.

    As for my issues, they've existed for a long enough time that I've learned effective ways to deal with them. It's never gonna go away so if you don't learn how to handle the downswings you definitely will not live a long and happy life. For me the main thing was to accept it and not try to hide it from friends and family. You can't get help and understanding if you do.
    You're absolutely right, my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    It's very good piece and it sheds a lot more light on some of the struggles he faced. I really feel for his family. It sounds that despite his divorce he remained close with his former wife and his kids.

    As for my issues, they've existed for a long enough time that I've learned effective ways to deal with them. It's never gonna go away so if you don't learn how to handle the downswings you definitely will not live a long and happy life. For me the main thing was to accept it and not try to hide it from friends and family. You can't get help and understanding if you do.
    i'm glad for that soul- that seems the key, the acceptance and dealing with the swings and not fighting it. If the tragic situation of double "D", helps even a few , or helps some realize they aren't alone and use this to help themsleves or get help, at least somethign good comes out of such a tragedy

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    i'm glad for that soul- that seems the key, the acceptance and dealing with the swings and not fighting it. If the tragic situation of double "D", helps even a few , or helps some realize they aren't alone and use this to help themsleves or get help, at least somethign good comes out of such a tragedy
    That's exactly what I hope may come of it. The world places such a stigma on certain forms of mental illness that most people run from the truth and never get the help they need. If they only realized how many famous and productive people had a mental illness they wouldn't be quite so fearful of addressing it. Most forms of mental illness can be treated effectively and there's no need to spend your whole life in the shadows of them.

    It's truly a shame that DD took a path that some may even see as being selfless rather then selfish in wanting medical science to more fully discover and be able to treat his illness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    That's exactly what I hope may come of it. The world places such a stigma on certain forms of mental illness that most people run from the truth and never get the help they need. If they only realized how many famous and productive people had a mental illness they wouldn't be quite so fearful of addressing it. Most forms of mental illness can be treated effectively and there's no need to spend your whole life in the shadows of them.

    It's truly a shame that DD took a path that some may even see as being selfless rather then selfish in wanting medical science to more fully discover and be able to treat his illness.
    God knows that I have run into this problem many times where people either were afraid of me because I am mentally ill or they actually took advantage of me, thinking that I was dumb. One of my bosses at an old job claimed that I threatened to kill her when, in fact, I do not remember or recall ever making such threats.

    I may donate my brain to science whenever I die so that medical experts can study it. I do not plan to expire anytime soon, so hopefully that will be a long time off. Paul, I am glad that you are doing so well with your bipolar disorder. I wish I could say the same for myself, but I fly off the handle easily and am just now recovering from a bout of severe depression that lasted from September of 2010 through about March. It cost me a trip to one of the local psychiatric hospitals for about four or five days because I have a psychiatrist who is hard to get in to see when emergencies arise. I am thinking of dropping my current psychiatrist and using my general practitioner, since he at least does not hide behind a damn computer, nor does he have a crackpot smile or a lack of personality.
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    Don't trust to a GP to handle a bi-polar disorder Dags. They aren't equipt to deal with it very well. Find a good psychopharmacologist, a psychiatrist who speciializes in treating through meds, not talk therapy. There are many shrinks out there who can prescribe but very few who reasearch and specialize in it. Find one of them and stick it out.

    The more that the docs and I experimented with various meds the easier it got for me to realize what worked and in what dosages. Today I tell them what I need and if they prescribe anything else I'll only take it long enough to prove that it's not what I need and get back to what does. Like one of them told me, it's an art and not a science finding the right medical solution. I don't hold any hope that what I take now will always work for me so I'm always on the lookout for others.

    Ever since medical science finally got around to believing that far more people had some form of a bi-polar disorder there have been newer and potentially better meds to treat it. Maybe some day they'll come up with something that works perfectly for all but until then it's still catch as catch can. Don't give up the ship pal.

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