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Again you continued to argue something that Evernight never brought up.
LOLOLOL!!!.. so let me get this straight.. evernight says "rodgers won a superbowl in less time than brett favre".. but now you say he never brought up the subject of how long to winning a superbowl.. ohhhhhh ok 4th.. thanks for the laugh!
Originally Posted by
Evernight
easily one of if not THE best QB in the NFL, broke franchise QB records,
won a Super Bowl in less time than Favre he *never* mentioned starts in his original post.. he only did that later.. but then again, since evernight,not me, brought up the entire subject, I just roll my eyes that you now claim he never brought it up, despite 3 times giving you his exact quote where, well... he brought the subject up.
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Originally Posted by
Evernight
He was? Every time the camera panned on him he was sitting there doing nothing looking completely disinterested. Even your own fans said as much.
You've really got his one wrong Evernight. First it was the talking heads on TV who were giving their under-analyzed and uninformed opinions as to what was happening on the Bears sidelines. Then is was the sportswriters who continued to carry the ball about Cutler's conduct. Any Bears fans who actually did "say as much" were only parroting what they had heard or read and those who did were in a minority.
Cutler was sitting on the sidelines moping and seeming uninterested? It's really interesting when some people think they know the emotions of another whom they don't understand and have never even met. So I would say that it was simply an opinion that he was moping and once again an uninformed opinion! Anyone who had ever spent time watching him play would see that he usually looks that way whether he's winning or losing. He's not very good at outwardly expressing emotions and that neither makes him a lousy QB or an asshole. It's simply the way his personality reflects itself.
Give me Cutlers calm and detached look to Rex Grossmans schitzy brain and "deer in the headlights" look any day. Cutler isn't very demonstrative and Rodgers is. Rodgers feels the need to outwardly celebrate in a way that some might call "hot dogging" while Cutler prefers the Walter Payton approach. When you score just hand the ball to the ref and go on about your business. Aaron Rodgers may become one of the best QB's to ever play the game but Walter Payton will always be the best Football Player to ever play the game and one of the classiest guys the NFL and it's fans has ever see.
You only comment on what the camera captured in the few moments that it actually focused on him. All of that was nothing more than media controlled flashes of him to support whatever their broadcast team was commenting on at the time. The camera was probably fixed on him the whole second half but what they chose to show was only what supported the storyline they were going with. Those calls are made by the shows producer as was the storyline the broadcast team was encouraged to use. That's simply the way it works.
You know it's pretty stupid to play the my "QB can beat up your QB game around here." Both teams have pro-bowl QB's and although their styles are different, they're both capable of taking a team to and winning the Super Bowl. One has and the other one will. All these other comparisons about Rodgers or Favre or whoever are just plain redundant and fvcking useless. Rodgers is a great up and coiming QB and Cutler is only about a year behind him in his climb to greatness. Favre is gone and good riddance to the drama queen. I once respected him and he should have left the game after his last winning year but his greed and ego pushed him on so that instead of going out with a bang he went out with a whimper as a player and disgraced as husband and father.
Peace and Love y'all and lets stop posting just to provoke an arguement.
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Originally Posted by
dabears54
LOLOLOL!!!.. so let me get this straight.. evernight says "rodgers won a superbowl in less time than brett favre".. but now you say he never brought up the subject of how long to winning a superbowl.. ohhhhhh ok 4th.. thanks for the laugh!
he *never* mentioned starts in his original post.. he only did that later.. but then again, since evernight,not me, brought up the entire subject, I just roll my eyes that you now claim he never brought it up, despite 3 times giving you his exact quote where, well... he brought the subject up.
I can see we just like playing games here.
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Originally Posted by
4th and 26
Rodgers is not a showboating qb like others are. Remember he had to endure the favre saga while sitting on the bench and I never saw him complain about it. There is an occasion a player will get excited and showboat but it is not like the attention whore wrs like TO or Chad Johnson that constantly need the attention when they score.
I would agree that Rodgers is not a showboater in the vein of TO or Ocho Cinco but then who is. The issue that this whole arguement seems to be about is whether he used the Championship Belt thing and whether it was original to him. Setting all arguement aside the answers are yes he did and no it wasn't original. Those are the facts pure and simple so if Evernight stated that it was original to Rodgers and 54 corrected that I don't see that as starting an arguement. We all do that from time to time when someone makes an incorrect or unsupported statement.
As to what he did or didn't endure playing behind Favre makes little or difference as I see it. He learned his game from watching a geat QB and wasn't thrown to the lions before he had the means to win. Now he's become a great QB in his own right and he needs no excuses for his bench time because in the end it was of a benefit to him not a burden.
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Originally Posted by
soulman
I would agree that Rodgers is not a showboater in the vein of TO or Ocho Cinco but then who is. The issue that this whole arguement seems to be about is whether he used the Championship Belt thing and whether it was original to him. Setting all arguement aside the answers are yes he did and no it wasn't original. Those are the facts pure and simple so if Evernight stated that it was original to Rodgers and 54 corrected that I don't see that as starting an arguement. We all do that from time to time when someone makes an incorrect or unsupported statement.
As to what he did or didn't endure playing behind Favre makes little or difference as I see it. He learned his game from watching a geat QB and wasn't thrown to the lions before he had the means to win. Now he's become a great QB in his own right and he needs no excuses for his bench time because in the end it was of a benefit to him not a burden.
Is the entire argument over who came up with the idea of the belt thing? Seriously who cares who came up with the idea, Rodgers did it in a celebration which was something he liked. I don't think Evernight was saying that Rodgers invented this new belt celebration but more or less saying it was something that was unique to Rodgers. Just like the butt bump players do or high fives when players win or make a great play. Nobody is taking sole responsibility for something they do in celebration.
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Originally Posted by
Evernight
Wow, such a jab. That was almost db54esque. Take it up a few more notches and you might just get there.
As for the belt celebration......you only hate it because he was able to do it on the biggest stage in the NFL (you know, the one where he's handed the Super Bowl and MVP trophies). Personally I like it.
It's unique to him and it's something he came up with himself when he first got here. .....
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Originally Posted by
soulman
I would agree that Rodgers is not a showboater in the vein of TO or Ocho Cinco but then who is. The issue that this whole arguement seems to be about is whether he used the Championship Belt thing and whether it was original to him. Setting all arguement aside the answers are yes he did and no it wasn't original. Those are the facts pure and simple so if Evernight stated that it was original to Rodgers and 54 corrected that I don't see that as starting an arguement. We all do that from time to time when someone makes an incorrect or unsupported statement.
As to what he did or didn't endure playing behind Favre makes little or difference as I see it. He learned his game from watching a geat QB and wasn't thrown to the lions before he had the means to win. Now he's become a great QB in his own right and he needs no excuses for his bench time because in the end it was of a benefit to him not a burden.
There was no "my QB can beat up your QB" talk, nor was what I said in any way related to what the media said. I may have uninformed views, but so does anyone else who isn't on the bears roster or have some sort of intimate relationship with Cutler and knows him personally. Saying the
My views were simply from what I saw, and from what I saw it appeared he had little interest as to what was occurring on the field at that time.
Saying the opposite about him is no different than what I said, as neither you nor I have any idea as to what's going on (or not going on) in his head.
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Originally Posted by
4th and 26
Is the entire argument over who came up with the idea of the belt thing? Seriously who cares who came up with the idea, Rodgers did it in a celebration which was something he liked. I don't think Evernight was saying that Rodgers invented this new belt celebration but more or less saying it was something that was unique to Rodgers. Just like the butt bump players do or high fives when players win or make a great play. Nobody is taking sole responsibility for something they do in celebration.
You know 4th somtimes this place get's like two people fighting over the same parking space and neither wants to let the other get it. When that happens it's best for both to just back away and find other places to park. Nothing good comes from the fight.
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Originally Posted by
Evernight
There was no "my QB can beat up your QB" talk, nor was what I said in any way related to what the media said. I may have uninformed views, but so does anyone else who isn't on the bears roster or have some sort of intimate relationship with Cutler and knows him personally. Saying the
My views were simply from what I saw, and from what I saw it appeared he had little interest as to what was occurring on the field at that time.
Saying the opposite about him is no different than what I said, as neither you nor I have any idea as to what's going on (or not going on) in his head.
The my QB vs your QB was just a figure of speech. I could just as well said that the nanny nanny boo boo shit was getting kind of old.
Of course what you said was related to what you saw and the media reported or wouldn't have phrased your post the way you did. Some of us as Bears fans jumped to conclusions based on what the media said as well but some didn't. I'd even say most on this site didn't agree with then popular viewpoint that his injury wasn't that bad and he was nothing but a quitter.
I believe I covered the views of Cutler on TV pretty well. Those were the camera shots they featured and unless you were actually at the game you would have seen or understood little more and most didn't. Were you actually at the game and if so were you mostly watching Cutler or the game?
Neither of us know exactly what was in his mind but I'd think that my understanding of him might outstrip yours by a little only because I follow him much like you do Aaron Rodgers. Cutler seems like a moody guy and Aaron Rodgers doesn't and that's just a sign of their basic personalities. Not good or bad it just is what it is.
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