Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
Guess we shall agree to disagree.I do think the packers actually a very good respresentative of the 'average" of the NFL clubs, and as such gives a good introspective on the league in general terms and here is why:

1. They are a small market team and as such gives you a good look at the lower corp sponser dollars, lower radio and adversting you get in a small market.Also gives you the lower costs of being in a small city, as opposed to the much higher costs in big cities like NY and chicago to operate a franchise daily

2. BUT, they are also one of the more popular teams, so do not get the numbers "skewed", by having trouble selling out(ala a tampa or carolina)and get a good respresentative of revenue and costs of a full stadium on a consitatnt basis- and also merchandise sales.

3. We also KNOW, they are one of the top 16 revenue teams( just do not know how high, but an educated guess would place them 10-16), as the 2006 CBA made the top 16 teams , pay the lower 16 teams a split of the higher revenues, and packers have always been on the writing, not receiving end of this.

So IMO this while of course doesn't mean the "Same" for teh other 32 clubs, shows a good "average", as will have some much higher and some much lower, a very good cross representative of the League and and a really good "average" of what an NFL franchise looks like.

But as you stated your mind is already made up, and even actual numbers will not change or mean a thing now. oh well
You say potatoe and I say potato. My mind is made up so long as the owners offer doesn't meet with my imaginary acceptance but I'm certain the players would back off that demand if the revenue sharing arrangement was sweet enough. Like we've already said, each side has it's bargaining tools and bottom line. If they can get to that without the owners pleading poverty and the players not asking them to prove it we may just have some football to watch this year.

But as to proving my point I've been consistent all along. The numbers of one team won't cut it. An independently audited compilation of all teams will do so long as any unusual or mischaracterized expenses are separated and footnoted. If there aren't any and the numbers show what you've always contended that they will then the players should lower their mistrust enough to get back to the table and get something done.

Whenever someone tells me the way it is and I, in doubt, ask them to document it and they refuse, I'm gonna be real hard to deal with from that point on and I would hope that you would be the same.