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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    I will have to disagree with you on this, DB. The bar and the owner is hurt by the lack of the Bears, but the NFL has a outlying effect on the economy as a whole. Think of it as a domino theory. You tip one domino, which is one sector of the economy, and it begins a chain reaction of knocking over the subsequent dominoes ahead of it, which affects other areas of the economy. Nothing is for free, not even this case with the bar owner. The bar owner is not the only person who is going to suffer. Others will too: retailers/merchandisers, other bars/restaurants like Hooters which I frequent on Sundays to watch games, team employees, etc.
    but just the same, next year the bears can decide to hold camp in chicago, at halas hall or anywhere else( hell could go back to platville) and this bar owner still SOL with his summer business and he can't sue or claim damages for the bears is the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Well the Bears have an agreement with Olivet Nazarene to hold camp there each year so as a normal course of affairs the bar owner has a right to plan for and expect his business to increase during the time the team is there. This delay does have an impact without a doubt but it's probably not something you could sue over.

    But despite that this lockout can't be good for his business or dozens of others who plan for and have become dependent on the increase in their businesses during camp. At least some things would have had to have been ordered in advance to accomodate the crowds so the cost of those things has already been spent in advance. In addition fans like you who go to camp may be having a hard time making plans and those who've planned vacations around it may end up disappointed if camp is delayed by the continuation of the lockout.

    So the bottom line is that it's impossible to say that the public hasn't been adversely affected in some way or another. That being the case it would be almost impossible to claim to it was in the public's best interest. Clearly it's not.

    Oh no doubt has an "effect".. no one would say different, just saying its not an actionable lawsuit.. and as soemone with hotel resrvations, trip and spend a week thee in rest/stores etc.. know the trickle down effects first hand...just saying unfort in life thigns like this happen, hell the agreement with bournanais was up this year, so for awhile looked liked may even move to suthern illinois,, and romeoville,, and actually still talking about for 2013, which will tick off all the local bournabais businesses, but that's life in the NFL of moving around

    http://romeoville.patch.com/articles...-to-romeoville

    Chicago Bears President: Training Camp Could Move to Romeoville

    Ted Phillips confirmed talks with Lewis University during an April 30 Bears Expo in Chicago.
    By Shannon Antinori | Email the author | May 4, 2011

    deal is reportedly in the works to bring the Chicago Bears’ training camp to Romeoville by 2013, but Lewis University officials aren’t talking.
    According to the Chicago Tribune, Bears President Ted Phillips said Saturday that the camp could make the move to Lewis once its current contract with Olivet Nazarene University in Bourbonnais expires.
    “We’ve also … been talking to Lewis University,” Phillips told the paper. “The reason we did that is because we felt if the opportunity existed to kind of bring training camp a little bit more central to our season-ticket base, it might make some sense to our fans. It’s an ongoing discussion.”
    A representative for the university declined to comment on whether the Bears camp could come to Lewis.
    “Unfortunately I can’t do that,” Director of Sports Information Matthew Brendich said when asked to comment on Phillips’ remarks, adding he had “no response whatsoever.”
    Asked whether a deal with the Bears is in the works, Brendich told Patch, “If there was anything happening, I would have probably put something out.”
    This winter, Brendich was also mum on reported plans to build a $20 million professional athletic complex on the campus, complete with a state-of-the-art multi-sport stadium, four practice fields and sports training center — a facility that could be a perfect fit for the Bears.
    Though the project was touted by Mayor John Noak in his Jan. 11 state of the village address, Lewis officials would not confirm the plans.
    In February, the university announced plans to build a $4 million facility including a nine-lane track and multi-purpose field, suitable for football, lacrosse and soccer, among other sports, Brendich told Patch. The project broke ground last month, with the first phase scheduled to be completed by August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    but just the same, next year the bears can decide to hold camp in chicago, at halas hall or anywhere else( hell could go back to platville) and this bar owner still SOL with his summer business and he can't sue or claim damages for the bears is the point
    I know that. What I'm saying is that there is a ripple effect, whether legal or or extra legal, economically speaking. Everyone is going to somehow be affected by the fallout of a lockout if it indeed gets to the point where we see games being canceled.

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    In my post I did say that it wasn't actionable as far as a lawsuit goes but that's beside the point. All I was trying to point from yet another example is that there was no way to find that a continuation of the lockout was in the public's best interest and that's one of the four key points the owners had to prove in order to get the stay.

    It's just a simple extension of my thinking that those two judges made a shit load of reversable errors in their ruling although I hope that it never gets to the full court on appeal before they settle this thing. I just very much dislike the obvious political bias of Judges Colloton and Benton. People like that should not be on the bench IMO. They should join the rest of the party hacks and raise funds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    but just the same, next year the bears can decide to hold camp in chicago, at halas hall or anywhere else( hell could go back to platville) and this bar owner still SOL with his summer business and he can't sue or claim damages for the bears is the point
    Were we talking about the same thing? I was talking about the lockout.

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