Thread: Terrelle Pryor Bales on Buckeyes.............

To me Pryor looks like one of those guys who'll be a cancer for any team that takes him. Anybody who has that much of a sense of entitlement and zero regard for his team and teamates isn't gonna be very popular in an NFL lockeroom.

Originally Posted by dabears54

think because of the 6'6' 230 size and 4.6 speed he wold make an excellant WR/TE... just not sure pryor will swallow pride and make the switch

I think that's been mentioned as a possibility. Does he even have the tools to play QB at the NFL level? So many of these big mobile QB's dominate in college but they can't do it in the pros. I'm not saying they fail physically but emotionally some seem to have a hard time not being the "King of the Hill" anymore. It's a let down for them and Vince Young would be a good example of that.

Originally Posted by dabears54

From watching Ohio State, he seems to have the physical "tools", but too often not the mental tools, doesn't read a "D" very well, makes alot of questionable decsions, that in college work out more often,but will not in Pro's..and of course all his off field stuff, also doesn't say "leadership" which need in NFl at the Qb position- which is why think changing Position is smart- his athleticism does stand out on the field.. so a TE/W hybrid IMo would work- the big question is would he Put the time in to change? or even let his ego do it? and not sure

The latest I read made the suggestion that if wanted to play QB he should go to Canada for some seasoning and experience. He said that he didn't think he was ready for the NFL right now. We'll see if he files for the supplemental draft or not.

As a Buckeye fan (I follow both UT and Ohio State football and have for years), this all is very much an emotional thing for me. One of the things that worried during the John Cooper regime in which Cooper, a fellow alumnus of my Powell High School here in Powell, TN, recruited players who often ran a foul with the law or did not perform well in the classroom. He always had loaded teams in terms of talent - in fact, it is argued that the 1998 Ohio State team, whose only loss that season to Michigan State came as the #1 team in the nation, was far superior to Jim Tressel's 2002 National Championship team and his 2006 and 2008 teams that appeared in the BCS Championship Games. But Cooper recruited some shady characters and his teams had very low graduation rates.

When Jim Tressel came in, the very first thing he did was very declaratively make the promise he would beat Michigan. Well, he did, 26-21 in Ann Arbor. You all know his starting quarterback from the 2002 National Championship season - Craig Krenzel - but what you didn't know was that he was an outstanding young man and a great student, carrying a 3.8 GPA in Molecular Genetics. Tressel didn't recruit him, but he rode him to a National Title and two Fiesta Bowl victories. However, the first time that there was trouble on the horizon during the Tressel era was with Maurice Clarett, who received money and a vehicle from an Ohio State backer. Clarett was dealt with severely; he was kicked off the squad. Then a year later, Troy Smith, who would go on to win the Heisman Trophy, would accept benefits from a Ohio State backer. His penalty was that he would miss that year's Alamo Bowl, which Ohio State won anyway.

After those two things, nothing ever happened, and we fans just assumed that everything was being handled properly and that Tressel was a good disciplinarian. He didn't recruit players who got into legal trouble, and no one ever heard of any kind of legal troubles coming out of the Ohio State football team. A lot of people were considering Tressel to possibly be the greatest coach in the history of the program, a pretty lofty position when you consider that the great Woody Hayes coached to the point where it supplanted Michigan as the powerhouse of the Big Ten until he was old and the game passed him by (see: Hayes punches out Charlie Bauman of Clemson). Then this shit happens, and suddenly you realize that there is not one Goddam major athletic program in the United State, not Ohio State, not Tennessee (who is under NCAA investigation for violations in three sports: football, men's basketball, and baseball), not Alabama, not Oklahoma, not Auburn, not ANYWHERE. There are no clean programs in America, and the only reason why there haven't been more violations reported to the NCAA is because those that haven't been caught have gone about their business of cheating in a very surreptitious/clandestine manner and have managed to hide their messes.

My best friend (who got me into Ohio State football back in high school) and his dad often get onto me about liking pro football, and that players only play for the money, and, in the case of my friend's dad, makes claims after his beloved Cleveland Browns left Cleveland for Baltimore, that the owners will ultimately rip the hearts of their fan base out by picking up and moving their team out of town. My argument against what they say is that all football and basketball players, collegiate or pro, want to play for money, so why not like a version of a sport where it's legal to make money and that incentive to play hard is there whereas in college, you have the perpetuating incidents where school's athletic departments break the rules of not paying players or where players get to be "so good" that they leave college a year early (or, in the case of college basketball, the really talented players leave after only their freshman year)? No thanks. I love college sports, don't get me wrong, but the bullshit that the NCAA has thrown on the table has largely turned me off, and besides, the quality of play in college in comparison to the pros cannot compare.

End of tangent.

Originally Posted by dabears54

it sure worked for henry "i'll be in the hall of fame" burris to go to the CFL didn't it : )

Nah, but it did work for Warren Moon. That's who came to mind the minute the reporter suggested that he play in the Great White North for a few years before trying his hand in the NFL. I'd have to agree. He needs to get some maturity because if he comes into the NFL with the same attitude he had in college somebody will frag him.