Or you become successful by having a smart business plan, hiring good coaches with a good system, and getting players to fulfill that system
Originally Posted by purplejokr
Since when? Bears fans are some of the most conservative fans in football...we dont WANT them to think outside the box and be reckless. We want Running game, Defense, and Respectable players. We hate prima-donnas (which is why TO or 85 wouldnt be too welcome here). If you ever HAVE heard us saying the Bears dont think outside the box, its probably more of a compliment, not a gripe.
One of the consistent gripes that I read on this board since I've been here is how the Bears NEVER think outside the box in their coaching hires, in the draft strategy, & in their FA strategy.
And how many times have the Redskins tasted playoff victory during that time period? Thought so.
Snyder spends a boatload of money TRYING to make the Redskins a contender. Does he spend money wisely every time? Heck, no! The point is that Snyder is WILLING to make the effort to build a winner. As far as organizations go, I would much rather have them reaching than being too afraid to do anything at all. Case in point, the Bears' SB season, there was one major move that could've been made to push that team over the top after the loss to the Colts. The Bears stood their ground and have tasted victory in the playoffs once since that SB team.
No, we cant quantify what RGIII is worth, but what we CAN quantify is how much 3 First round picks are worth, and it basically sends the message: "this better work out or it is the biggest mistake in NFL history."
I get that there is a happy median but for a Bear fan to criticize another organization for being too aggressive just seems silly to me.
For both of you...
2) I want both of you to think back to the 2004 NFL Draft. That was when Eli Manning was coming out of college alongside Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger. The Giants paid a king's ransom for Eli when they made that trade and I would think they would do it again considering all of Eli's success in the NFL.
There is NO WAY to quantify value of RG3 today. He could be a GIANT BUST or he could win multiple Super Bowls. We just can't know. The only thing that we know today is that the Redskins have assured themselves to get one of the top two QBs in the 2012 Draft.
We also know that the Redskins have changed their strategy a bit by passing on Vincent Jackson who ended up in Tampa Bay. Combine that knowledge with how the Redskins quietly and smartly upgraded their WR corps from Santana Moss and Jabar Gaffney to 25 year old Pierre Garcon, 27 year old Josh Morgan, they're rumored to be working on trying to get 26 year old Eddie Royal into the fold as well which gives RG3 three solid targets to throw to when training camp opens for the 2012 NFL season.
Like I said friends, there is no way to know if the haul given up by the Redskins to get their franchise QB will be reasonable but we do know that there are aggressive teams and there are passive teams. At the end of the day, I want the organization that I support to be more on the aggressive side because I don't believe that you can win when you're sitting on the sidelines.
You want to use the Eli as an example of success, the flip side of that is the Saints and Ditka doing pretty much the same thing for Ricky Williams...and look how much that set their franchise back.
Honestly...i dont care about this, its the REdskins, its their problem, im just glad the Bears would not make an idiotic move such as this. More power to the 'Skins i guess, it better pay off since it will be awhile before they can draft in the first round again!!